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I've got a boatload of live audio recordings made at 24 bit, 96k sampling, that I would like to burn to disc without downconverting. I'm positive there's a way to do it, but I'm having some difficulty finding instructional material that doesn't wander all over the place. What I need are some instructions that focus like a laser on that need. Can anyone help? Thanks!
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That is not possible. CD format is only 16 bits, 44.1 Khz. So you must convert.

You may have seen instructions for burning a *data* CD. Such a CD will play on a computer but a normal CD player will not be able to play it.
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BTW, you can burn DVDs that work. Just not CDs.
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Hi Criggs,

As Amir said, You would need to go down to 16-bit/44.2kHz for CD. But . . .

. . . you did not mention what you want to play these disks on. Different players can handle music from other formats. Many car stereos will play discs with MP3s (which you don't want), and many DVD players can play SACD and DVD-A.

DVD-A directly supports 24-bit/96kHz audio, up to six channels. Can you play DVD-A discs? Could that be what you are after?

Another possibility would be to create a data-disk with the 24-bit/96kHz audio in FLAC or WAV format, and that would play on some car or home disc players.
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Okay, now we're getting somewhere: SACD and DVD-A. Please tell me about these two formats. How do I burn them? What kind of blanks do I need to buy to burn them? What players can play back these two formats? Are they the only two formats to which I can burn 24 bit, 96k sampled, audio files without having to downconvert? Thanks again for the help, and I look forward to your replies.
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Oh, and by the way, I have Nero. Can Nero burn SACD's or DVD-A's or any other disc format that can preserve 24 bit, 96k sampled, audio files without downconverting, while providing the user with an end product, a disc, that can be played back on some sort of disk player to or in an audio, stereo or entertainment system? (I'm using very careful catch-all phraseology to adequately convey that I am very open-minded when it comes to what kind of disc I want to end up with, and what kind of player!) Thanks again for any guidance.
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I've got a boatload of live audio recordings made at 24 bit, 96k sampling, that I would like to burn to disc without downconverting. I'm positive there's a way to do it, but I'm having some difficulty finding instructional material that doesn't wander all over the place. What I need are some instructions that focus like a laser on that need. Can anyone help? Thanks!

For openers, please read this:

http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

Getting to your question, I guess that google is broken on your computer because searching on how to burn a dvd-audio disc pulled up a boatload of sites on my computer.

I then ran how to burn a dvd 24/96 disc with similar result for that topic.

They are your wheels to spin! ;-)
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criggs:

Forget about SACD, you just can't make it yourself. In any case it involves conversion and requires specific players.

DVD-Audio, if you are only talking about 2ch, you don't need DVD-Audio which requires DVD-Audio players.

A DVD-Video can support it (with blank video).

You can put 2ch 24/96 pcm on Blu-ray and AVCHD too (again with blank video).

What's best for you depends on your specific target audience, what they use to play it back. Do you have to have discs because nowadays many players and receivers play files from USB stick and HDD. As with data DVDs, you need some way to navigate the playlist.

Audiosceptics accept audio trials using 25 people. A recent Oxford study with over 353,000 patient records from 639 separate clinical trials shows for every 1,000 people taking diclofenac or ibuprofen there would be 3 additional heart attacks, 4 more cases of heart failure and 1 death every year.

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Hi Criggs,

In case you haven't found this yet:

How to make a DVD Audio with Nero
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Hi Criggs,

In case you haven't found this yet:

How to make a DVD Audio with Nero

There must be an open source solution.
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There must be an open source solution.
Actually, there is: http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/

However, it is a command-line program, and has quite a learning curve.
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I very much doubt Nero makes DVD-Audio (with a hyphen, the Meridian patented format, maybe now Dolby). Instead it's only a data DVD with audio files. The following seems pretty clear, unless things have changed since:

http://forum.my.nero.com/index.php?showtopic=10583

As I said it's possible to make a DVD-video:

http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/dvd-audio-burning-on-nero.171751/

Audiosceptics accept audio trials using 25 people. A recent Oxford study with over 353,000 patient records from 639 separate clinical trials shows for every 1,000 people taking diclofenac or ibuprofen there would be 3 additional heart attacks, 4 more cases of heart failure and 1 death every year.

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Hi Theresa,
Actually, there is: http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/

However, it is a command-line program, and has quite a learning curve.

That's the problem, too steep a learning curve for me.
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