Originally Posted by tuxedocivic
Originally Posted by arnyk
what can you determine from a listenening evaluation of speakers in the wrong room?
If the listener has a lot of experience evaluating speakers and understands how the room affects speakers, a lot can be determined.
That does not seem logical. If the room profoundly affects the sound quality of the speaker, which we know to be true, then what we hear must be 25%, 50& or more due to the room.
We may still be able to hear differences among different loudspeakers in the room, but those differences may be biased by the room.
For example the room has a bright bias. An ideal speaker will sound too brignt in the room, and what we hear will make us want to choose a speaker that is in general a poorer speaker.
But for most people this is not the case. If listening to a pair of speakers in a foreign room, the speakers should be well away from boundaries, as well as the listening position.
In general moving speakers away from room boundaries makes them sound bass-shy and thin. It is just another confusing bias.
Everything bass should be ignored.
So you admit that we can't judge a speaker's bass or balance?
And tonal balance should be listened for.
Why is it correct to judge balance when you already said that the bass is to be ignored?
Don't pay attention to imaging.
If that is so, then we have a large area of speaker performance that we can't evaluate. Why are we punishing ourselves this way to get only fragmentary evidence?