Originally Posted by Glimmie
All I'm saying is that not just anyone can dive so deeply into engineering theory as you can. But at the same time not just anyone can solve technical issues under the pressures of live or recorded production events either. There is often no time for even a cursory engineering analysis. I'm not condoning that at all, I don't like some of it either, but that's the way it is.
I have seen very well qualified EE's fail under pressure yet their lab skills are spectacular. FWEIW, these "Mcguyvers" are well compensated deserving or not. And the "deserving" part is determined by the business needs and not a university technical review board.
It takes many types to make it all work.
While you make good points regarding the pressures and time constraints involved, your initial statement was the closest.
I have had the pleasure of working with some non degreed individuals who call themselves engineers. I have also had the unfortunate circumstances of working with degreed individuals who couldn't engineer their way out of a paper bag.
I've also had the pleasure of working with technicians who could make circuits work from chicken scratches I scribbled on a bar napkin, as well as techs who were a danger to all around them.
My point here is: A degreed program in EE has core courses. E/M field theory, circuits, semiconductor physics, signal analysis, control theory. Most non degreed "engineers", while being called that in title, may not have a good understanding of aspects outside of their area of practice. That by itself, is neither good, nor bad. Just is. I asked the question because knowing the answer would help.
Attempting to argue within an engineering context... engineering which is not within their domain of experience nor understanding is not good, easily spotted, doesn't reflect well on that individual, and tends to lead to frustrating attempts by that individual to use the typical internet styles of argument, such as diversion, misrepresentation, and flat out lies instead of technical content.
And then there are the followers... the parasites... those who feel the need to pigpile..