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Hi,

About to purchase and setup my first home theatre. I've had a 1080p screen with a HTPC for some years but I've just been using the TVs inbuilt speakers

I initially was going to get the Yamaha YHT-798au. http://m.au.yamaha.com/en/products/audio-visual/hometheater-systems/home-theater-package/yht-798au/?mode=model
It can be had for a great price ($800au) but unfortunately my shelving isn't deep enough for the fronts and is also quite high (the tweeters would be just below ceiling height) which I read is not ideal.

So I came up with a new setup
(All yamaha)

RXV-473 receiver
NS-C444 as centre
NS-333 x 2 as fronts
NS-333 x 2 as rears
YST-300W as subwoofer

It's twice the price! Is it twice the performance?

I discovered a small hiccup. I'm not going to be able to put that subwoofer anywhere discrete. I could fit the YST-SW225 neatly in a corner though and I could actually squeeze a YST-SW216 right under the TV facing the listener directly.

The advice of the shop owner was that these subwoofers would not be a good match for this system though.

The room is about 6m x 6.5m but the entertainment section is more in a 4m x 4m area.

Any advice? I'd be grateful
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Personally, I think Yamaha makes the worst receivers on the market. If asked by a friend to rank receivers, they would be last on my list.

My first choice would be a Harman-Kardon receiver, and my second choice would be a Denon or Marantz.

The Harman-Kardon 1650 receiver is far better in every respect IMO, and is available for under $350.

I can't speak regarding the quality of those speakers; I have never heard them. The one review I found on the 333 was basically pretty negative, citing a lot of problems and sonic faults. It didn't make me want to consider them.

In the absence of any positive reviews of them by objective sources, I would suggest that you consider some speakers that HAVE been praised repeatedly in reviews, such as PSB and Wharfedale and KEF speakers.

Since I have no idea what your speaker budget is, it's hard to make a specific recommendation. The Wharfedale Diamond 10.1 is a very good speaker that is $350 per pair. Is that in the ballpark?
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Personally, I think Yamaha makes the worst receivers on the market. If asked by a friend to rank receivers, they would be last on my list.

My first choice would be a Harman-Kardon receiver, and my second choice would be a Denon or Marantz.

The Harman-Kardon 1650 receiver is far better in every respect IMO, and is available for under $350.

Let's swing back around to the receiver in a moment and just focus on the speakers. I will heed your advice though.
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I can't speak regarding the quality of those speakers; I have never heard them. The one review I found on the 333 was basically pretty negative, citing a lot of problems and sonic faults. It didn't make me want to consider them.

In the absence of any positive reviews of them by objective sources, I would suggest that you consider some speakers that HAVE been praised repeatedly in reviews, such as PSB and Wharfedale and KEF speakers.

Since I have no idea what your speaker budget is, it's hard to make a specific recommendation. The Wharfedale Diamond 10.1 is a very good speaker that is $350 per pair. Is that in the ballpark?

Firstly, I'm in Australia, the land of a strong dollar yet strangely highly priced consumer goods. The Yamaha setup I posted originally would set me back $1800 US delivered... I believe it'd be about half that in the US of A. I got on to Yamaha because their packages were attractive price wise (eg the YHT-798au I mentioned earlier). When I realised it wouldn't fit I just looked at their wares further and wound up on the EF series of speakers.

If I went an RXv473 receiver with 4 x wharfedale diamond 10.1s and 1 x Wharfedale Diamond 10.CS I'm at the same costs (~$1800US delivered). And I wouldn't have a sub yet. My original budget was <$1000... I really would like to keep it comfortably on the right side of $2,000 if possible.

This website is about as cheap as Australian Hifi gets http://www.rio.com.au/

Any suggested builds based off that?

EDIT: What about this? http://www.rio.com.au/product/0/3/922/wharfedale-dx1/

5 Stars from whathifi and the price is right! http://www.whathifi.com/review/wharfedale-dx-1hcp

EDIT 2: This setup is wholly and solely for watching TV/movies. Virtually zero music duties. Hooked up to a HTPC which I will get a True HD/DTS-Master compatible graphics card for
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EDIT: What about this? http://www.rio.com.au/product/0/3/922/wharfedale-dx1/

5 Stars from whathifi and the price is right! http://www.whathifi.com/review/wharfedale-dx-1hcp

EDIT 2: This setup is wholly and solely for watching TV/movies. Virtually zero music duties. Hooked up to a HTPC which I will get a True HD/DTS-Master compatible graphics card for

Apparently there are a few spare satellites floating around for this model at the retailer in question which he'd be happy to chuck in to make it a 7.1 system (obviously I'd need a 7.1 amp, I was thinking the RX-V673 but appreciate maybe there are better options. We'll get to it!)

I also found this: http://www.avrevolution.com.au/speakers/packages-systems/wharfedale/crystal-cr-30-home-theatre-system

It has speakers from the Wharfedale Crystal series http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/Products/ProductSeries/tabid/77/PID/224/language/en-GB/Default.aspx#detail:
Fronts: CR30.5
Rears: CR30.1
Centre: CR30.C
Woofer: SW-100

Would it be a better option than the DX-1 system? Sorry to bump my own post!
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