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I am redoing some attic space to become an art studio/gallery/chill out room/creative space. The primary function of this space is to be able to leave behind all of the stresses of the rest of the house/family and completely zone out. I think that having the best possible sound system is probably a good idea and will fit the mood of the space. Here are my dilemmas.

Most online info is directed to people setting up a home theater focused around a TV which has a defined front of the room and defined back of the room for 5.1 surround. This room would not. Chair in one corner. Easel in another. Desk in another corner.

Would like the audio aspect to be as invisible as possible (not a focus of the room)

Not sure if I should install speakers in walls and celing (it is attic space so I have easy access to all of the walls and ceiling). Less flexibility and wound not know the pluses/minuses until it is installed.

The room is a odd shape with slanted ceilings in parts and a little alcove in one area.


I would appreciate any advice regarding the issues above. Thanks...
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I would just go with a 2.1 system. Not in wall though. They are garbage in my opinion. You could use good bookshelf speakers and a subwoofer or small towers if you have room. In my art office I have a 2.1 system that is really good for music and the occasional movie. I used larger bookshelf speakers and a large subwoofer.
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OK, I am glad to hear that you should not go built in as this makes things a little easier and opens up some options.

Are there any systems which employ more than 2.1 speakers where the goal is to create a non-directional (no defined front/back) immersive experience? For example I could imagine a system where the sounds of the wind instruments go predominantly to speaker 1, drums to speaker 2, guitar to speaker 4, voices go to speaker 2 and 3 (or something like that).... Does Bose do something like that? I remember asking a guy in the store why you could not just by the speakers and hook them up to another amp and his answer seems to imply that they are doing what I am talking about in their reciever. It might just be mumbo-jumbo sales speak....
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If the audio signal had metadata in it for each instrument then possibly your idea could be reality, w/o knowing what instrument made what sound it's probably near impossible to do it though.

Sorta like what Dolby is doing for future discrete HT.

But then why have a engineer do a mix master when you want to decode it??

I'd look at a listening room 2 channel concept, then decorate it with your chill out and art stuff.

Go retro tubes for the glow, etc.
I grew up in the 70's, we had a tree fort called the "jimi Hendrix party box", yea I do understand what you are trying to accomplish.
My advice: keep it simple to start, and have fun


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If the audio signal had metadata in it for each instrument then possibly your idea could be reality, w/o knowing what instrument made what sound it's probably near impossible to do it though.

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Go retro tubes for the glow, etc.
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trying to picture how you'd do that. once the sounds are mixed together, they're a single wave and I don't think any metadata can put humpty dumpty back together (or take him apart . . . ) You'd need however many dozens (or hundreds) of separate channels were initially mixed into the music to be present separately so that each could be directed to a different chanel and mixed differently. he reverbs, compression, echo, EQ and other effects or tweaks that might have been applied to an individual sound might not work correctly in the reimagined mix, yielding another need to strip those out and reapply them based on the revised mix. None of that is doable with current home delivery technologies, AFAIK.
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OK, I am glad to hear that you should not go built in as this makes things a little easier and opens up some options.

Are there any systems which employ more than 2.1 speakers where the goal is to create a non-directional (no defined front/back) immersive experience? For example I could imagine a system where the sounds of the wind instruments go predominantly to speaker 1, drums to speaker 2, guitar to speaker 4, voices go to speaker 2 and 3 (or something like that).... Does Bose do something like that? I remember asking a guy in the store why you could not just by the speakers and hook them up to another amp and his answer seems to imply that they are doing what I am talking about in their reciever. It might just be mumbo-jumbo sales speak....

Music discs are simply not "encoded" that way. They are all designed with a forward facing soundsage in mind. The closest you are going to get to something like what you described is multi-channel music discs like DVD-A or SACD or BD-A, but these discs, while they contain multi-channel audio content are still primarily designed around the concept of a "front stage" and attempt to mimick the sound you hear at a concert hall.

You could simply use 4 speakers placed in the appropriate corners of your space and use Multi-channel stereo options to give the space a "left-right" sound field without any particular front sound stage created by Front/Mains and/or Center involved. Don't know if that would generate the effect you want, but that's all I got.

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