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Today i started watching some NON-HD sports / HD sports on my TV hooked up with an ONKYO receiver and 5.1 system. My fronts are JAMO S608 tower speakers , JAMO S60 center and some JAMO rear speakers along with JAMO SUBWOOFER 250.

I know my system is designed for movies but i am now using it 20% for sports too. I am watching sports using the PL 2 music mode as i can adjust the width , dimension , etc.

Should i keep the speaker settings at small with 80hz crossover as used for movies or should i set my front speaker to LARGE ? Or maybe everything to small and raise the subwoofer level ? I like the increased bass during sports. With 0dB subwoofer level from the AVR is fantastic for movie playback , but as for watching football , no bass at all.
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I'd say leave the crossovers as they are and bump up the subwoofer to taste as you see fit.
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I'd say leave the crossovers as they are and bump up the subwoofer to taste as you see fit.

Should i bump it from the AVR volume levels or from the knob on the back of the sub ?
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AVR since that way it is much easier to get back to the original volume.
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I am curious as to why you think there might be less need for bass management with televised sports than with movies.
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I like the increased bass during sports. With 0dB subwoofer level from the AVR is fantastic for movie playback , but as for watching football , no bass at all.

Interesting, and oddly just the opposite for me.

I bring the LF down significantly for most sports, news, etc. I utilize full bandwidth playback with well executed/well produced TV shows, dramas, action etc. And for some TV productions*, I need to boost the LF way way up to achieve decent balance.

*music acts on Tonight Show, American Idol, Grammys (for some reason ... typically most all live sound productions there's a dearth of bottom end).



Anyway, I'd not mess with the bass management/filtering settings, but that's me. I understand your conundrum, as I prefer to have LF balance handy at my finger-tips. Coming from a pro-audio FOH engineering background, old habits die hard. At my seat, I have handy level controls for all my subs, with parametric EQ and variable high-pass control all at arms length.

So, I understand your position.

That said, I'd do it however you can the easiest way to accomplish it, and most importantly, get it back to normal/calibrated point.


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I am curious as to why you think there might be less need for bass management with televised sports than with movies.
What do you mean?
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Interesting, and oddly just the opposite for me.

I bring the LF down significantly for most sports, news, etc. I utilize full bandwidth playback with well executed/well produced TV shows, dramas, action etc. And for some TV productions*, I need to boost the LF way way up to achieve decent balance.

*music acts on Tonight Show, American Idol, Grammys (for some reason ... typically most all live sound productions there's a dearth of bottom end).



Anyway, I'd not mess with the bass management/filtering settings, but that's me. I understand your conundrum, as I prefer to have LF balance handy at my finger-tips. Coming from a pro-audio FOH engineering background, old habits die hard. At my seat, I have handy level controls for all my subs, with parametric EQ and variable high-pass control all at arms length.

So, I understand your position.

That said, I'd do it however you can the easiest way to accomplish it, and most importantly, get it back to normal/calibrated point.


Best of luck
I think i will be bumping the subwoofer from the AVR when watching sports although basically there is no bass in sports especially football.
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What do you mean?
Some folk told me that i should run my fronts at LARGE setting because i will get more bass from these mains than my sub.
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^^ That seems unlikely. But, if true, then you should run them large with everything.
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Some folk told me that i should run my fronts at LARGE setting because i will get more bass from these mains than my sub.
You could try running your fronts large with extra bass enabled for the sub
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What do you mean?
Some folk told me that i should run my fronts at LARGE setting because i will get more bass from these mains than my sub.

Your sub must be a POS.

You get two benefts from using a good sub and setting your L & R speakers in Small mode:

(1) The front speakers are freed from the need to handle bass which generally makes them sound cleaner.

(2) Your subwoofer is supposed to be able to do a far better job of handling bass than your : & R speakers

I've personally experienced both of these benefits. They are dependent on correct positioning and level adjustments of all speakers and subwoofers(s) involved.
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