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I have a pioneer sc 55 is there a way via an external dip or anything to get Multi sub eq to eq the subs individually outside of mcacc which doesn't do it? Looking and getting two rhythmic audio f15hp

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I have a pioneer sc 55 is there a way via an external dip or anything to get Multi sub eq to eq the subs individually outside of mcacc which doesn't do it? Looking and getting two rhythmic audio f15hp

Get as many channels of parametric equalization and perhaps delay as you have subs, and use them in conjunction with REW or something like it to correct your subs to a consistent standard that you like. IME Multieq will think that you have the greatest sub in the world and make only minor adjustments to it.
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The more tools across the more channels the better.

However, typically global EQ, and individual delay, is adequate and a strong combo of tools for optimization. Those tools, combined with experimental placement and measurement, one's well on their way. Of course, best practices would suggest whatever room treatment one can facilitate for the LF, can certainly be beneficial in both smoothing FR, and damping LF decay.

Either a miniDSP solution, or the ubiquitous Behringer DCX2496 can do what you want. If you want a higher quality product, Xilica XD series would be one to look at. 4x8, or 8x8, pricey but effective.

My take; Global EQ, plus relative time delay between sources is what you need for ideal room smoothing.


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I have a pioneer sc 55 is there a way via an external dip or anything to get Multi sub eq to eq the subs individually outside of mcacc which doesn't do it? Looking and getting two rhythmic audio f15hp

How's this for different approach?
Instead of spending $2.3k on 2 of those, http://www.rythmikaudio.com/F15HP.html ,
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Description: F15HP black cone with 600WRMS H600PEQ3 amp Price
F15HP-SE piano black finish with H600PEQ3 amplifier and black cone driver (back order for 6 months) $1399
F15HP black oak grain finish with H600PEQ3 amplifier and black cone driver $1224
F15HP black matte finish with H600PEQ3 amplifier and black cone driver $1184

How about 4 simple DIY 15" subwoofer via EricH Flatpacks and then spread those out 4 corners or 4 mid-wall location?
http://www.diysoundgroup.com/subwoofer-flatpacks-2/sealed-subwoofer-flatpacks.html
or better yet Parts Express has them bundled with subwoofers!
No special tools needed.
http://www.parts-express.com/term/new_knock_down_subwoofer_cabinets
I'd suggest "Dayton Audio 15" Ultimax Subwoofer and Cabinet Package", Your Price $262.00 + $25 shipping = $287/sub
4 with glue/other $1200-ish.

That will ideally give you flat response across your seat(s) locations and really minimize need for EQ.

You could do that w/o and EQ and see how it works, then add miniDSP solution as FOH suggested.

You'd save $$$, at least $1k.
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How's this for different approach?
Instead of spending $2.3k on 2 of those, http://www.rythmikaudio.com/F15HP.html ,


How about 4 simple DIY 15" subwoofer via EricH Flatpacks and then spread those out 4 corners or 4 mid-wall location?
http://www.diysoundgroup.com/subwoofer-flatpacks-2/sealed-subwoofer-flatpacks.html
or better yet Parts Express has them bundled with subwoofers!
No special tools needed.
http://www.parts-express.com/term/new_knock_down_subwoofer_cabinets
I'd suggest "Dayton Audio 15" Ultimax Subwoofer and Cabinet Package", Your Price $262.00 + $25 shipping = $287/sub
4 with glue/other $1200-ish.

That will ideally give you flat response across your seat(s) locations and really minimize need for EQ.

You could do that w/o and EQ and see how it works, then add miniDSP solution as FOH suggested.

You'd save $$$, at least $1k.

I really like this idea, however i am still versing myself on DIY sub building as i have not tried it before. Researching the daytons but this could be a very great idea and save me a bunch of money! Does parts express do dual sealed enclosure kits? would like to start with 2 dual 15inchs. Since i dont have cable or wife approval to put subs throughout room. going to palce them in the front stage on each side.

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Receiver : Pioneer Elite SC - 55
Power Center : Panamax M7500 Pro
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I really like this idea, however i am still versing myself on DIY sub building as i have not tried it before. Researching the daytons but this could be a very great idea and save me a bunch of money! Does parts express do dual sealed enclosure kits? would like to start with 2 dual 15inchs. Since i dont have cable or wife approval to put subs throughout room. going to palce them in the front stage on each side.

Hmm with my setup i think the DIY option is a good route but im really looking for something with deeper extension. I have Def Tech 8080's as my L/C/R so i get plenty of midrange punch and can probaly set my crossover to 60hz on my pioneer sc-55. Im mostly concerned with the low end 20-40hz performance. From what i was seeing, the daytons dropped off closer to 30hz. The rythmik's are pretty linear down to 20hz and even a little farther.

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Receiver : Pioneer Elite SC - 55
Power Center : Panamax M7500 Pro
Bluray : Oppo 103
Gaming : Xbox 360
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