Originally Posted by Toknow****a
You're missing the point. The number of dedicated 5.1/7.1 setups in the home is a rather small percentage. The reality is that most consumers want a single soundbar and not more unique speakers to place. There's no reason to require 4 or more upwards firing channels to use Atmos. The real issue is it could work with 5.1/7.1 systems but it wouldn't be backwards compatible.
Really this first home version should be called Dolby Atmos Metadata Extension. It's just TrueHD/Plus with metadata for the few objects in the mix.
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Sorry you aren't happy with the initial rollout of capability. I get that, for sure.
As for being a niche market. Meh, who cares? It's still coming and we enthusiasts get to enjoy it pretty damn soon if not right this moment with the Denon.
Atmos in it's current form is 100% backward compatible.
You bring up a good point about the overhead requirement. I'm not sure if you can enable Atmos processing without at least one pair but that's kind of the point of Atmos. If you don't have or want overheads then just continue enjoying surround sound in it's current form using whatever. I do know that Atmos is compatible with 'wides' but if you don't have heights I wonder if it will work at all. At least this is the current situation. This might not be a limitation down the road but you bring up an important issue.
Originally Posted by TMcG
Sorry, just saw this now. Yes, we should definitely meet up. Sending you a PM.
Thanks! Just replied.
Originally Posted by Aras_Volodka
Ty, so it just is a standard by default then.
Let me clarify about that first question... if Dolby manufactured the tech for Dolby vision & Atmos, wouldn't they be aware of any deals being made to utilize their product? As an example, I remember Scott asking Walther Roelen about if & which manufacturers would be building Ultra D 3d... and we did get some answers... can't hurt to ask. I think it's a fair question so that those of us who want to buy the Atmos version won't have to turn around and buy it again next year if they remaster everything for dolbyvision... if so I'd like to wait on the Atmos releases because I'll for sure be getting an dolbyvision tv set in 2015. I'd like to prevent myself from owning 3 copies of into darkness or the hobbit trilogy... haha.
You know I don't know a ton about Dolby Vision/HDR video. I can tell you that you will be buying movies all over again forever no matter what.
There is always a "good" reason to re-issue this or that. You'll buy that Into Darkness again and again. That next version might be in Atmos and 4K but 2.35 and not IMAX. Then they will do it again in IMAX. F**k!
Also it's worth mentioning that nothing is really authored for HDR video whatsoever. That's a big deal. Will the studios go back and try to process the image for you and then re-release it in "HDR"? Maybe. I'm not sure I'd want this. It will be the newest of titles in native HDR that will be worth watching with an HDR capable display. These don't really exist yet but they are coming and soon, I've heard. The tv's, I mean.
In any case you might be able to process any title into fake HDR like tv's do fake 3D if you want, now.
Originally Posted by Aras_Volodka
Oh that's awesome, good to know. I was actually curious about that topic in general... because I just watched the bluray of Terry Gilliam's "the adventures of baron munchausen" and was surprised to hear a stereo mix... it definitely didn't sound like a surround mix. I know they can't redo all the old films, but it certainly is jarring when you hear a non-surround film haha.
How did you find out about Die Hard & Chicago? Was there a list somewhere?
I forgot where I saw it but it's been mentioned publicly a couple times.