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Best Upmix to 11.1 and PS3 audio out settings?

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I just upgraded my receiver (Denon AVR-X6300H) for the first time in about 8 or so years and I have 2 questions:

1.) I know Atmos and DTS:X are preferred, but what setting do you use to upmix to 11 channels if the disc isn't already mixed in Atmos or DTS:X? Do you use DTS: Neural X? Is that the preferred setting to upmix less than 11 channel content to 11 channels?

2.) I still have an old PS3 as my Blu-Ray Player. Until I upgrade, what settings do I use to send the audio out? Linear PCM or Bitstream?
I know when I first setup my system Linear PCM was recommended. Just checking to make sure that is still the case.
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Quick question(s)

I just upgraded my receiver (Denon AVR-X6300H) for the first time in about 8 or so years and I have 2 questions:

1.) I know Atmos and DTS:X are preferred, but what setting do you use to upmix to 11 channels if the disc isn't already mixed in Atmos or DTS:X? Do you use DTS: Neural X? Is that the preferred setting to upmix less than 11 channel content to 11 channels?

2.) I still have an old PS3 as my Blu-Ray Player. Until I upgrade, what settings do I use to send the audio out? Linear PCM or Bitstream?
I know when I first setup my system Linear PCM was recommended. Just checking to make sure that is still the case.
Neural X for multichannel content, Dolby surround for stereo. Check my blog for the long winded explanation as to why. Neural X transforms the 5.1/7.1 channel track into the DTS X object space, how? Not 100% sure, but it works surprisingly well. I have no idea what it does with stereo, but it sounds like ****, and can't even interpolate a stable center channel. Dolby surround does a good job at extracting decorrelated signals, first in the frequency domain, and then in the time domain, and rerouting it to the appropriate channels. This does a good job at expanding the soundstage upwards, and gives a much more 3 dimensional sense to the space, but it doesn't do a very good job at grabbing things from the bed channels and tracking them overhead and around the room like Neural X does. From stereo, DSU sounds nearly as good as discrete surround.

You need bitstream for atmos.
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Neural X for multichannel content, Dolby surround for stereo. Check my blog for the long winded explanation as to why. Neural X transforms the 5.1/7.1 channel track into the DTS X object space, how? Not 100% sure, but it works surprisingly well. I have no idea what it does with stereo, but it sounds like ****, and can't even interpolate a stable center channel. Dolby surround does a good job at extracting decorrelated signals, first in the frequency domain, and then in the time domain, and rerouting it to the appropriate channels. This does a good job at expanding the soundstage upwards, and gives a much more 3 dimensional sense to the space, but it doesn't do a very good job at grabbing things from the bed channels and tracking them overhead and around the room like Neural X does. From stereo, DSU sounds nearly as good as discrete surround.

You need bitstream for atmos.
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Thank you very much!
I'd love to read more in your blog, but I don't see a link in your post or signature.
Do you have a link?
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Thank you very much!
I'd love to read more in your blog, but I don't see a link in your post or signature.
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https://rantingsofamadaudiophile.wor...s-dts-neuralx/

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Very interesting read.
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