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post #31 of 45 Old 02-15-2007, 10:59 AM
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What's wrong with twisted pair?
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I like BJC because:

1) I know exactly what raw materials go into the finished product.
2) I can custom order the length I need. Helps keep the rat's nest effect to a minimum.
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I'll just end this thread here (since it's going there anyway) and say:

Avoid Monster

Blue Jeans or Monoprice are both companies built by God himself.

There, typical AVS wire response.

The First Clarke Law states, 'If an elderly but distinguished scientist says that something is possible he is almost certainly right, but if he says that it is impossible he is very probably wrong.'
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Yes, you can run a 25' sub line with little trouble. If you run it balanced, you dont' have to worry about where the wire is run; if you run it un-balanced, you MAY need to be careful about where to run it, to avoid picking up hum.

If you run the wire inside a wall, make sure you get CL2 or plenum rated cable, as unrated (or just UL rated) cable is a fire spread hazard that may void/reduce your fire insurance coverage.
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What's wrong with twisted pair?

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articl...-with-hdmi.htm

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I'll just end this thread here (since it's going there anyway) and say:

Avoid Monster

Blue Jeans or Monoprice are both companies built by God himself.

There, typical AVS wire response.

You're welcome to provide other "bang-for-the-buck" cables instead of just being a smart ass. I used Blue Jeans before I was even an active member here. There's a reason they are so commonly recommended....good prices, good quality, good customer service. What's the problem?
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The BJC article is total bull in regard to Cat5 and is nothing more than smoke and mirrors.

When will they come out with a coaxial HDMI cable?
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Use any 25' RG59 or RG6 cable. You'll be fine.

Thanks Ratman.
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You're welcome to provide other "bang-for-the-buck" cables instead of just being a smart ass. I used Blue Jeans before I was even an active member here. There's a reason they are so commonly recommended....good prices, good quality, good customer service. What's the problem?

Anytime anyone asks a question about cables/wires on here, the answers are always the same, and usually turns into an anti-Monster flame war. I realize it's the same herd answer that's expected anyway, so let's just avoid the issue entirely and sticky the answer, you know? I'm actually quite serious.

The First Clarke Law states, 'If an elderly but distinguished scientist says that something is possible he is almost certainly right, but if he says that it is impossible he is very probably wrong.'
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I was always happy with the products I got from Frank at SignalCable.....good quality and reasonable prices.....

IF YOU LIKE IT....BUY IT!
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Yes, you can run a 25' sub line with little trouble. If you run it balanced, you dont' have to worry about where the wire is run; if you run it un-balanced, you MAY need to be careful about where to run it, to avoid picking up hum.

If you run the wire inside a wall, make sure you get CL2 or plenum rated cable, as unrated (or just UL rated) cable is a fire spread hazard that may void/reduce your fire insurance coverage.

Thanks for the info jwatte.
What do you mean by "balanced"?
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New to home audio but I just purchased some 12g speaker cable and an 8' HDMI cable from Blue Jean Cable. Fast shiipping, quality product. I'm very happy with them and will use them again. I'm amazed at the quality difference between 25' of Monster speaker wire from Circuit City and 25' of 12g Blue Jean Cable. NIGHT and DAY.
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New to home audio but I just purchased some 12g speaker cable and an 8' HDMI cable from Blue Jean Cable. Fast shiipping, quality product. I'm very happy with them and will use them again. I'm amazed at the quality difference between 25' of Monster speaker wire from Circuit City and 25' of 12g Blue Jean Cable. NIGHT and DAY.

In what sense it was Night and Day? The sound quality? was it noticable?

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Balanced wiring is XLR (using 3/4" locking connectors, or possibly TRS 1/4" tele). Unbalanced is tip/sleeve, typically using RCA, or a TS 1/4" tele. Balanced is used in high-end gear and pro gear; unbalanced is used in consumer gear (because it is cheaper for short runs). Balanced is much less susceptible to interference.
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In what sense it was Night and Day? The sound quality? was it noticable?

Yes, sound quality is better with the Blue Jean wires. Much "crisper". But in my post I was talking about the build quality of the speaker wires themselves. The Blue Jean cables are simply MUCH better quality than the Monster. THe inner copper wires are not thin little strands like the Monster.
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Balanced wiring is XLR (using 3/4" locking connectors, or possibly TRS 1/4" tele). Unbalanced is tip/sleeve, typically using RCA, or a TS 1/4" tele. Balanced is used in high-end gear and pro gear; unbalanced is used in consumer gear (because it is cheaper for short runs). Balanced is much less susceptible to interference.

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