Originally Posted by sdurani
That's not where dipolars should go, instead they're intended to be placed directly to the sides of the main listening position, whether that is your 1st row or 2nd row.
Dipoles are unique in that they create a null (quiet zone) directly to the side of the speaker, so that listeners hear very little direct sound and are instead enveloped by reflected sound. Placing them between rows means that none of the listeners are in the null. If you're not going to make use of this unique feature of dipolars, then why use them to begin with?
I personally run QS8's and have a similar seating arrangement. I would disagree that you want the speakers mounted directly beside the listening position. Bi polar, di polar, and quad polar speakers all have their individual characteristics. I found the QS8's blended best when mounted slightly behind and above the listening position. I have mine almost dead center between the first and second row, and it creates a nice effect in either, without calling attention to themselves. The soundstage is a hair further forward for the back row, but much better than when I was running a direct radiator.
With the 2nd row being a foot or 2 from the rear wall, there will hardly be any rear-vs-side separation in the surround field to make 7.1 worthwhile. However, it is entirely different for the 1st row, which will be several feet away from the back wall and will yield excellent separation.
I agree with this to some extent, but not entirely. Due to the fact that the second row has the surround mounted in front of them, you will definitely see some improvement with rear surrounds. When I have the rear surrounds off, the surround stage pulls forward of the rear seats a bit. When I engage the rears, the entire sound field is much more enveloping and seamless.
If you were running only one row of seats, and that row was against a rear wall, I would totally agree the rears are not worth it. This is not the case however and I would move forward with them. I was running QS4's, then 8's in the rear and was fairly happy with them. I just switched them out for M2's recently as I changed out my columns; and I prefer the direct radiators for the rears. YMMV.
BTW, when you calibrate levels and distances, will you be doing that from the 1st row or 2nd row or somewhere inbetween?
If using Audyssey, it is recommended to calibrate the center of the front seats first. Aud will base all information off of this position and tailor it from there.
Here's a pic of my side and rear placement.My gosh. I just realized this thread was started back in 07. What possessed you to respond to a 6 year old thread.