Originally Posted by msheabel
As many have said. Streaming quality is poor at best. REALLY DISAPPOINTING. It's great for Dora the explorer for the kids. But main movie watching is FAR FAR behind.
I'm sorry that you're stuck in 2005 and haven't seen HD online, much less VUDU HDX.
Originally Posted by bokes
You can't re-sell a download on Ebay, Amazon, or an old fashion garage sale.
This is why I rent. Cheaper, and I don't have to worry about actually owning it.
Originally Posted by JeremyMc
[*] Streaming doesn't offer 1080P, 3D, 7.1 or combination depending on title and/or service compared to physical.
3D is stupid and pointless. VUDU HDX is 1080p, and can do 7.1, even though it's currently only implemented on a handful of movies.
Originally Posted by von Levi
Also keep in mind that 1/3 of Americans don't have broadband, so downloading and streaming isn't even an option for them.
And most of that 1/3 is passed by cable, FTTN, DSL, or FTTH, so it's their own fault if they're stuck in 2000. Also, with 300GB of bandwidth, you can do plenty of streaming and not worry about the cap. I'm not defending Comcast, but from a pragmatic perspective....
I'm shocked how many people use RedBox, so that may be a sign of how unsophisticated the average consumer is.
Originally Posted by skibum5000
I hope to heck not for a million reasons:
1. what a frickin tragic waste of internet bandwidth. Everyone has to suffer from miserable speeds for things that wouldn't make sense for physical distribution just so people can stream movies in sub-standard quality (audio and visual) and then we have to listen to them complain about how their fancy new HDTV barely looks better than their old SD set and that HD looks barely better than DVD, if even. Really???
2. as already mention in point one, the quality is poor, many people only get 1-7Mbps typical internet speed and that is a far cry from 20-40Mbps of physical media (and we aren't even talking 4K yet!), at least in the U.S. we are sooo, soooooooo far from the age where we have the bandwidth to stream 7 channel lossless audio and physical media quality compressed 2K video never mind 4K, one day we will get there but that appears to be a long way off still, and don't forget that is for ONE stream with zero bandwidth left over for anything else so we need a good 120Mbps, constant, all times of the day, to every home before it begins to even make sense for 2K video and more like 500Mbps, if not more, for 4K.
even once we get 500Mbps to every home all the time with ease:
3. what about extra? various cuts? commentaries?
4. distribution rights change, rights get fought over, suddenly maybe a ton of your favorite shows/films are gone for who knows how long until the lawyers fight it out
5. storage space and distro cost money so even if homes have 500Mbps it will be a long while until the streaming companies feel the pressure to deliver physical media copy levels of quality, maybe a LONG while and they may also cut losts of shows/films they decided are too obscure to waste space/bandwidth with
It's just nice to know that once you have the disc you have the disc. The title won't disappear. Your preferred cut might not disappear. And you get top quality audio and video and extras. Some people go insane of special edition cuts or original cuts, maybe the one streaming is the cut you don't care for and you are stuck with it for who knows how long.
OMG! Graphics. They're a TOTAL waste of bandwidth. We only have 300 baud! The end of the world is coming! Deja Vu. Guess what? DOCSIS 3.1 is coming, when fully built out, it will do gig symmetrical over coax, they can push 10 or even 40gbps fiber out into the neighborhood, FTTH can do gigabit already.
Many places could stream 4k video with 11.4 DTS. I could right now.
Originally Posted by GHafer
Enthusiasts, by nature, are collectors. As others have noted, look at the resurgence of vinyl for its collectibility and its superiority to other media, at least in the ears of collectors. If we lose physical media, we lose 11.2 surround, master audio, 4k resolution possibilities. Just look at the pathetic delivery speeds (and dependability) offered by ISP, let alone their their expensive rates.
You are factually wrong. Over half of the US has access to internet connections that are capable of streaming 4k HEVC video with whatever you want packed in there, including 11.4 DTS audio, all the extras you can watch, and more. It's just a matter of developing a service to do it.
Originally Posted by Noonin
AT&T got rid of unlimited streaming for their wireless phone plans because of people streaming movies and videos. The bandwidth just couldn't handle the throughput. Is the wired infrastructure to our homes any better at handling everyone streaming movies to their TVs? At this time I doubt it...at least in more rural areas. Not to mention the crappy selection of movies Netflix has available to stream, (though that may change if they lock up more agreements with the studios)
What do 3G cell phone networks have to do with anything? HFC can handle the load.
Originally Posted by skibum5000
1. And that is actually quite the exception for the US. I've lived within 30 miles of Boston and NYC and never had any service come close to that.
2. $70 a month for internet alone is pretty steep price
3. even with your bandwidth you can handle ONE blu-ray stream at a time and zero 4K
4. you are stuck with whatever cut of a movie they deliver and likely zero option for extras or commentaries and the selection available can change at any moment (netflix streaming is missing tons of things)
5. the quality streaming services are willing to put out always lags quite a bit to what bandwidth customers may have available, they don't want to pay to store or stream blu-ray quality now even for people who have the internet bandwidth to handle it (look how long it took music downloads to move even a little above a pitiful 128kpbs compression rate!)
1. Within a year, all of Comcast's footprint will have 50mbps internet.
2. I'm paying around $55-$60 for Blast!
3. I'll be the first in line for $70 gigabit. If they run FTTH gigabit, $70 will seem cheap
4. They could include this stuff digitally. No technological barrier there.
5. VUDU is already doing Blu-Ray quality streaming through HDX. The movies are a whopping 6-10GB each.
Originally Posted by von Levi
It's not just rural areas. ISPs only buildout the highest speed infrastructure in neighborhoods where a large proportion of residents have the means to pay for the highest speeds. So even in major cities there's no FIOS, for example, in lower income neighborhoods. Google is also being selective about the neighborhoods that it is installing its high speed internet in.
Fiber has redlined, but not HFC. The way it's franchised, it covers everyone, and when they upgrade a system, the whole system gets upgraded, not just one part of it.
What might not let physical media die is humans' desire to physically have something, and to collect it, just like we collected food for the winter for the past 200kya since we evolved from Homo whatever the heck we evolved from (habilis maybe? Or erectus? I get them confused).