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This past weekend I found out what it's like to attend a get-together with other AVS members, the goal of which, in this case, was to compare a number of different speaker systems. The GTG was fun, informative, intense, and at times excruciatingly loud—but more than anything else, it was a chance to meet other audio and speaker fanatics. It provided an opportunity to make new friends and acquaintances, all with a shared common interest in high fidelity. Overall, attending my first speaker-related AVS GTG was a very rewarding experience.

 

Audio enthusiasts took over the neighborhood! The line of vehicles was impressively long.

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Although the thread's title says shoot-out, a more apt description of the GTG would be "speaker showcase." There were simply too many attendees, too many variables, and ultimately not enough time to fine-tune speaker placement. The speakers were literally not on a level playing field, with tweeters at varying heights and attendees who were both sitting and standing.

 

However, that does not mean there was no science—all speakers were level-matched to a standard reference level prior to playing a 22-minute loop, which consisted of song clips suggested by the attendees. For each set of speakers—fourteen in all—sine sweeps were run, levels were set, and then the loop was played. This process took up the better part of the day and for each speaker pair, numerous members took notes.

 

Output was measured at the main listening position, ensuring that each pair of speakers

was level-matched to the next.

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It's nice to meet other AVS members in person—there was plenty of gear to check out.

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The speakers auditions were divided into two groups—full range and high efficiency. A Denon 4311CI receiver powered most of speakers, but two pairs were self-powered. The subwoofers used during the high-efficiency segment were a pair of JTR S2s—that's four 18" drivers and 8000 watts of power backing up the HE segment, and more bass than most people would ever know what to do with.

 

A pair of JTR Captivator S2 subwoofers dwarfed a pair of ARX A5 towers.

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The best way to get a feel for the GTG is to check out the results thread in the AVS "Speakers" forum. Also here is a direct link to my own impressions. The original thread, featuring all the planning, the list of speakers, plus some additional post-event commentary can be found here.

 

There's a tower of power!

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I wish to thank the GTG host, Andrew aka Gorilla83, as well as event organizer, Jim "The Sub Guy" Wilson for inviting me and for putting on such a great event. Actually, I need to thank everyone there for making the event so great, because it really was everybody's participation and enthusiasm that made it so memorable. Frankly, I can't wait to attend another AVS GTG—it was a great way to spend a Saturday.

 

The memorable experiences included a special "loud" session with a 123dB peak.

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The Speakers:

 

Full Range
Monitor Audio RX8
Ascend Sierras
SVS Ultra Towers
Beast's LS6s
Legacy Focus SE
KRK 10-3s (played at the end of the event)

With Subs
Arx A5
SEOS Fusion 8s
JTR Single 8’s
SEOS Tempests
SEOS Sentinels
Yorkville U215s
JTR Noesis 212
Seaton Cat 12Cs
The finale - JTR Noesis, again powered by the EP4000, and the JTR S2s at full tilt 

 

 

The self-powered Seaton Catalyst 12c was a highlight of the GTG. Its performance was simply jaw-dropping.

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This pair of Legacy Focus SE speakers required that the listener be in the "sweet spot"

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The AV123 LS6 is one imposing speaker!

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DIY was well-represented by several SEOS builds, including this 12-inch "Tempest"

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The JTR Noesis 212HT sounded so good, I could listen to them at any volume for any length of time.

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Awesome! Going through the results thread everyday, and just posted that i wish i could have attended! Great pic of the Cars outside..Wonder what the neighbor's thought biggrin.gif
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looks like a ton of fun smile.gif

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Excellent write-up!
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Awesome! Going through the results thread everyday, and just posted that i wish i could have attended! Great pic of the Cars outside..Wonder what the neighbor's thought biggrin.gif

About the time Mike was honking his (Im serious here) Truck's TRAIN horn, I imagine they all just hopped on out of the 'hood for a while...Haha!!!! Great time had by all though for sure smile.gif

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I enjoyed reading about this. Great photos too.

Will there be more events like this soon?
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How may women showed up?
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How may women showed up?

HA!!!

I always love to see how the DIY systems compare to very high dollar stuff.
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How may women showed up?

Take a guess. biggrin.gif
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Well done Mark! Ya know, maybe you should do this type of stuff more often... tongue.gif

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Nice review Mark!! You made my speakers famous tongue.gif It was nice to meet and chat with you. Nice quality on the pictures.
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Nice writeup man. Ive been following the other thread about this GTG in the Speaker section that Gorilla had started it. Id love to go to one of these sometime! Be great to meet people who share the same interest as well as hear amazing gear. I have zero friends who are into my favorite hobby of A/V, except for my movie going friends but thats about the closest I got lol. You guys are so lucky!!

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DIY was well-represented by several SEOS builds, including this 12-inch "Tempest"
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now thats a sexy looking speaker biggrin.gif

nice write up mark
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How may women showed up?

If you are talking about the few that decided to not imbibe on the excellent 32 different type of beers selection we had, I don't think there was anyone that at least got a taste biggrin.gif Glad the Asheville growlers I brought were a good hit!!!!

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seems to me like the overall consensus was that the higher sensitive speakers were liked more to me.

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I don't think that was really the case at all. With the listening levels we demo'd the majority of the speakers at, the sensitivity was not so much of an issue. I will say the 1812 overture track showed clipping on the "explosive" percussion blasts on nearly every speaker we had there, until the cats. 2000 internal watts probably helped there though biggrin.gif

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seems to me like the overall consensus was that the higher sensitive speakers were liked more to me.

They also happened to be some of the most expensive, so that stands to reason.

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see all very good! i want all
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They also happened to be some of the most expensive, so that stands to reason.

The SEOS also seemed to be well liked though and are a very high value for only $400-500.

It would realy be interesting to hear the other big speakers that you about so much in the DIY community against so many of these such as the Abbey, Orion, and Danley Synergy...even though the York deomonstrates the Unity, It would be interesting if there was some sort of crossover difference between the two.

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I hope the neighbors were notified before this smile.gif.

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Only the late night session would have warranted notification, but even 20 feet from Rilla's backdoor to the patio, you really can't hear it even when you are running full blast...

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Excellent write up, excellent pix!
That GTG was special. Very well organized, very well instrumented and managed, and best of all, look at the varied speakers.
GTGs, it's an American pass time.
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About the time Mike was honking his (Im serious here) Truck's TRAIN horn, I imagine they all just hopped on out of the 'hood for a while...Haha!!!! Great time had by all though for sure smile.gif

Kids across the street begged me to hit it again.

Excellent write up Mark. Overall it was a great way to get to hear loads of different great speakers, in the comfort of a great host's home. Looking forward to another.

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sweeeet. i would love to attend something like this

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I believe there was a pair of those two things in your avatar there as well, but we didn't have time nor permission to play with them biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

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It'd be nice if there were an audiophile in this STATE.
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I'll host a GTG in a heartbeat if someone else does all the planning. I've got the living room with 23' ceilings....and power outlets. Anything beyond that....you gotta bring it.
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