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I voted plasma because between only those two, the differences are amazing and fully in plasma's favor.

But when I shopped a bit back, I wanted a big screen and found that I could buy a very good plasma 65" for about double what I paid for a 73" DLP. Haven't regretted the choice at all and am sorry to see DLP RPTs disappear from the scene.

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PLASMA. Its nice that, as of today, about 85% of forum members prefer plasma (at least we dodged the sales lies). I had samsung c650 and the power supply went out (but it had beautiful color), and now a Panasonc VT30, which I could be satisfied with forever. My brother has a ten year old Panasonic 720p plasma that he's praying goes out (his kids even shot it with a bb gun and knocked a chip out of the glass screen! Nothing...no problems). I watch 2.35:1 movies on my VT30 ALL THE TIME and have had no problems that don't resolve within 20 minutes of viewing 1.85 material, DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE, ITS GARBAGE PROPAGANDA! Buy what looks best and buy the warranty in case lightning strikes! (or your power supply fails).
right now LCd Flat Panel Displays has 134 Viewings, the Plasma Flat Panel Displays has 86 Viewings. It seems to me that Plasma fans are more willing to participate in a(ny) Plasma vs. LCd thread.
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Plasma, for the obvious reasons. I'ts compounded by the fact that LED TVs that prioritize picture quality over design (e.g. full array local dimming dimming LEDs) no longer exists from any manufacturer. Unless you need a really large screen (70, 80, 84, 90) I don't really see any advantage in buying an LCD. The new Samsung PNXXXF8500 is even great for bright rooms.

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Trust your eyes and get what pleases you but at the same time do a little research and my biggest pet peeve has been LED which is great but its the back lighting and salespeople will have the general public believing its some new found tech but in the end the Plasma gave me what I wanted for the right price and size.
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With regards to an earlier post i would agree that there isn't enough adverts from manufacturers regarding plasma commercials.

The last one i can ever remember in the UK was one for the Panasonic PZ70/700's i think it was. Back in 2007 perhaps. The one with the formula one car and the Leopard.

Anyway i prefer plasma any day. Much more depth and "warmth" to the image.

Not to say i find LCD's offensive because i don't, own a smallish LCD which i am quite fond of tbh.

But the way it's going is soon enough we won't have plasma, and will be a choice of OLED and LED LCD's.

If plasma keeps going it will be the same panels, with all the extra bells and whistles every "new" generation desperately trying to keep things fresh. It's not the way to go imho.

The sooner OLED is brought to the masses, the faster any issues can be resolved, the bigger benefits for us all
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I always notice which TVs are Plasmas because I am aware of "pixel structure" in them.
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Where's the DLP option? I'll take DLP over plasma and LCD. I have had my samsung 72" for five years, it looks great and does well with 3d and I only paid $1800 for it. Three months ago, the hdmi board went out, so I investigated my options.
There were really very few. If you want a screen that is bigger than 70", it will be lcd. I have to have 3d too, the only choice for under $4k was sharp 70", which didn't look as good as the old Samsung dlp and cost $3400.
$3400 for a new set with smaller screen and crappier picture, or fix the old Samsung for $300?

I fixed the Samsung.
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Hmm.. I don't know! I have a 151 Kuro Elite in my bedroom. Then I have my Elite 70 in my HT . Both in a controlled lit room. And we hardly watch during the day. I like them both. But I think IMO it's to each individuals needs. But I do wish plasmas especially the new Pannys made at least a 70". Then end it with that.
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I've got 2 50" plasmas. One in the living room and the other in the master bedroom. I was going to buy a LCD's, but the picture quality difference was too great for me. So, my wife and I decided for the Plasmas. My parents bought a LED LCD TV, and the PQ is okay. My parents came to our house for a BBQ, and my dad asked me why did my TV PQ looks so real compared to his TV biggrin.gif Now, he wants a plasma. By the way, his LED and our Plasmas have been calibrated.

I think if you have a dedicated movie room, go for plasma. For video gaming LCD.
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Sony 51 inch from 2001- check the reflection of my dining room. That's why I went with a screen with a matte finish. Look at all of those remotes! eek.gif



Hopefully, your audio setup has been improving right along with your video improvements over the years.

strike #1: speakers too close to both the front and side walls
strike #2: speakers on the same plane as your screen and equipment (should be pulled forward)
strike #3: sofa on the right blocking that sides speaker path
strike #4: glass top coffee table
strike #5: hardwood floors (no place rugs either?)

All of which can turn out to be big no-no's, detracting from the sound quality potential. With that said, often times compromises have to be made with the limitations of the room and restrictions of your partner. In which case, oh well. It is what it is. tongue.gif
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I always notice which TVs are Plasmas because I am aware of "pixel structure" in them.

I am not going to say this for sure (though I would bet money on it ), but you are likely seeing 720p plasmas when you see this. The only plasmas I seem to see lately at stores like target and walmart are of the 720p variety. These are bottom of the barrel 1024x768 plasmas. Even the old 1366x768 plasma I used to have would not show much in the way of pixel structure, but these 1024 x 768 models are pretty jaggy. An lcd/led of the same resolution would give the same impression, its not a "plasma thing", its resolution. Oh, btw, I prefer plasma lol.
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I've had 3 LED/LCDs over the past 7 years, just switched to a 65" Panasonic plasma ST60.

Now I know what a nice display should look like.. cool.gif

Until you see it, you'll always believe that your LCD is king !
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Hopefully, your audio setup has been improving right along with your video improvements over the years.

strike #1: speakers too close to both the front and side walls
strike #2: speakers on the same plane as your screen and equipment (should be pulled forward)
strike #3: sofa on the right blocking that sides speaker path
strike #4: glass top coffee table
strike #5: hardwood floors (no place rugs either?)

All of which can turn out to be big no-no's, detracting from the sound quality potential. With that said, often times compromises have to be made with the limitations of the room and restrictions of your partner. In which case, oh well. It is what it is. tongue.gif

Dude, did you get out of the wrong side of bed? Chill out please. You must be a single guy. The image with my old Sony TV and JBL speakers was from 2001. The biggest improvement came from adding a rug, and a thicker curtain behind the LED. We usually keep all the pocket doors closed at night. So, I'd say the audio has kept up with the video. It sounds fantastic. Acoustic treatments are tough to run by the finance committee. Audyssey works quite well to align my room with the speakers.

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Hmm.. I don't know! I have a 151 Kuro Elite in my bedroom. Then I have my Elite 70 in my HT . Both in a controlled lit room. And we hardly watch during the day. I like them both. But I think IMO it's to each individuals needs. But I do wish plasmas especially the new Pannys made at least a 70". Then end it with that.

I would buy a reasonably priced 70 inch plasma.
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That makes zero sense. 1st of all any new Plasma or LED is going to make that DLP look like crap and its not even close. Your making your decision on size,not technology. I gave my 56" Samsung DLP to my parents. I threw a new bulb in it and it looks great.. Plasma great? Not even close! The picture quality of the plasma just spanks the DLP.. Obviously,your in the bigger is better category,so your argument has nothing to do with plasma vs LCD/LED. My friend has a $30,000 projector,I believe its SXRD. Is the picture big? Yes..Does it look better? Nope! Even he thought my 60ST60 spanked the projector in visuals, Plus the picture has no depth to it being projected on a flat screen.
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I prefer Plasma in general over LCD yet oddly enough I ended up with a Sharp Elite 70" LCD. eek.gif
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I love my PANASONIC PLASMA BY FAR OVER ANY SONY SAMSUNG you name it,,
its just simply stunning and the contrast are amazing, I honestly don't get it why people will go for LCD.

I think the truth is people go by the stuff by price , and name , not by what they see.... sad to see Panasonic under the water on this. !
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Wife's Ultimatum:
She's seen too many Plasmas versus LED/LCDs down at the dump's recycling area. So no Plasmas allowed.
Neither Plasmas nor LED/LCDs that are reflective. Matte screen only.
No side lit TVs allowed!
Well there's a positive side to all this - can't spend any monies!
(Oh, by the way, if that OLED is reflective - it's out too!)
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I always notice which TVs are Plasmas because I am aware of "pixel structure" in them.

I am not going to say this for sure (though I would bet money on it ), but you are likely seeing 720p plasmas when you see this. The only plasmas I seem to see lately at stores like target and walmart are of the 720p variety. These are bottom of the barrel 1024x768 plasmas. Even the old 1366x768 plasma I used to have would not show much in the way of pixel structure, but these 1024 x 768 models are pretty jaggy. An lcd/led of the same resolution would give the same impression, its not a "plasma thing", its resolution. Oh, btw, I prefer plasma lol.

 

^ Bingo. Pixels shouldn't be any more noticeable on a 1080p PDP, esp. at proper viewing distance. Unfortunately most plasma mfrs. have stopped makin 1080p PDPs in the 42" size range (which is what I would have preferred).


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I prefer plasma, but for my environment, the 70 inch Sharp gives me very good performance for the price paid. I don't want to sit in the dark to watch tv during the day, so I needed a screen that did not reflect light when my pocket doors are open. I upgraded from a 51 inch Sony to a 65 inch Mitsubishi DLP back in 2006. The DLP had very accurate color, more natural than my current set. I did not want to want to risk ir - wife puts stuff on pause for extended amounts of time - so LED for me in the living room. The biggest benefit for me in upgrading from DLP to LED is the lack of fan noise. I use this set more as a large monitor - the text is much sharper (no pun intended) than on the DLP. I appreciate the great black levels, off axis viewing angles, and true to life color of a plasma panel, but glare and reflections off the screen were a downer....

 

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And if it is true that the ZT60 is the last Panasonic plasma, I feel that would be a travesty as well. The last company making quality plasma screens abandons the technology.

I understand the desire to move towards OLED tech, but honestly how long do you think it will be until we can buy a 50 or 60" OLED display that blows away the Kuro (or the ZT60) for $3000 to $4000? I would say it will be a good four or five years at least.

 

I sort of doubt the 2013 PDPs will be it, but these are two reasons why I'm starting to look at plasma again as a possible replacement for my 10+ year old 34" 1080i CRT. A third reason is the potentially deeper blacks on the new lower-end models... Won't know if they're deep enough though until I see em side-by-side with the CRT.

 

CRT still has some advantages for me over the flat panel techs. It doesn't burn-in as easily (or noticeably?) as plasma, so I never think twice about watching "scoped" or 4:3 pillar-boxed content on it (though I'll usually expand 4:3 content to fill more of the screen anyway, which is another plus for CRT). And upconverted SD-DVDs, and poorly-mastered Blu-ray/HD content (which is still pretty common) look very good on my CRT.

 

It's hard to really appreciate the detail in some of the better scoped HD transfers (e.g. How the West Was Won, Ben Hur...) on such a small screen though. And I do watch a fair amount of wide/scoped content, which is a slight source of concern with PDP. If I get a flat panel though, I suspect I'll still go with plasma for the superior PQ, and just let the chips fall where they may re burn-in.

 

...And contrary to one of the last posters above, I will never, EVER, EVER buy another TV which does not have reflections again!! Reflections mean a clearer, sharper picture, which is a necessary trade-off in my book. smile.gif


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I prefer Plasma in general over LCD yet oddly enough I ended up with a Sharp Elite 70" LCD. eek.gif

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Plasma. I am willing to give up a little in thickness, weight, power and very bright room viewing to get a little better picture accuracy, wider peak quality viewing angle and lower cost. Especially lower cost. I'm not sure why equivalent quality plasmas cost less than LCD. Plasmas look and feel more expensive to make maybe because of the glass screen and greater weight. Are manufacturers simply getting higher margins because consumers want the latest so called "LED" display technology? I love my 42' Panasonic 1080 plasma and if also loved Mitsubishi 52' DLP dies it will be replaced, if it's still available, by the top of the line Panny 55" plasma.
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I have a Samsung UN-46B8500 and Love it but my Panasonic TC-P55GT50 out shines it. Plasma is better especially since most LCD are edge lit now.
i have no doubt when I upgrade next time it will be OLED maybe even 4K
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PLASMA all the way!! I bought a Panasonic 55VT50 in February 2013, it replaced a Sony KDL52NX800 LED. My original flat panel was a Samsung 720P plasma, I thought I would like the LED, afterall it was 2nd only to their XBR, it was 240 hz, it was 1080P, smart etc, but I was disappointed, I went from the 720P plasma and where the Sony was a very good TV, it lacked too much. I was able to get a Panasonic VT50 plasma and all I can say is WOW!!

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