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View Poll Results: Does Auto Room Correction Do More Good or Harm?
In general, it does more good than harm 303 46.19%
In general, it does more harm than good 53 8.08%
In general, it does more good only in the bass frequencies 34 5.18%
It depends on the room-correction system; some work better than others 126 19.21%
It depends on the room 34 5.18%
It depends on the speakers and their placement 17 2.59%
I don't have enough experience to say 89 13.57%
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post #361 of 385 Old 10-08-2013, 07:29 PM
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 - for multichannel I use the ARC, for 2 channel it isn't needed......

I always wonder about the basis for statements like that.  Different rooms?


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Different source running analog direct probably. Sometimes it's nice to turn off all the computers and kick it old school.
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I always wonder about the basis for statements like that.  Different rooms?

I just quite plainly enjoy the music better with no smoothing or room correction. same room, different needs...

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I just quite plainly enjoy the music better with no smoothing or room correction. same room, different needs...

Understandable.


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How timely...

The upcoming AES Convention in a couple of weeks has a workshop/seminar titled "Digital Room Correction - Does It Really Work?"

On the panel are Bob Katz from Digital Domain Mastering, Floyd Toole of Harman, Curt Hoyt of Trinnov and Will Eggleston of Genelec.

http://www.aes.org/events/135/workshops/?ID=3646

Would love to be a fly on the wall in that room.

Is there any news from this? It was last week and I cant find much about it.

I am skeptical about room correction as I personally have much more enjoyable soudn with YPAO turned off. But mine only measures and adjusts for one position....I cant recall where I saw it but someone was sayign that it may correct the sound for that one position in the room but screws it all up for the rest.

Therefore I think the next time around I will make sure to get a AVR or some sort of system that can measure a wide variety of spots in the room.

I personaly think you need to look at the room first and then EQ but I know that for many that is not a possibility.

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Is there any news from this? It was last week and I cant find much about it.
The workshop was videotaped, but IDK if the AES will make the video available. If it does, there's generally a fee. Don't expect major revelations.

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I think it's room dependent, if you have room that's strange in design not shaped properly I think a room corrector would come in handy. However if you have a dedicated room with wall treatments I think it would do more harm then good. I would rather contact a acoustician and have it done right.
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Maybe that is the general rule. My theater is not the customary rectangular shape. However, in my acoustically treated room that measures very well....Room Perfect made a sizable improvement.
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In my room I use Audyssey Pro. The room is treated, I found the best place for my 4 x subs to be placed by using a HAA calibrators RTA and Audyssey took care of the rest. I could of gone the manual way by purchasing QSC eq but that was becoming too much for a room of my size which is only a small dedicated theatre.

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I use a Pioneer VSX-84TXSi receiver, installed in 2006. After using MCACC it's still necessary to do subtle touchups to make the sound more closely resemble what I think was the original performance. Now, I wasn't really present for any of the original performances, so how could I know what it sounded like? I listen for percussive attacks on drums and cymbals, saxophone chirps and growls, deep registers of cellos, oboes, the in-room presence of vocals. I know it's an approximation but the result is what I believe is a reasonable facsimile.

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Haven't experienced it myself but from what I gather it's good practice to double check auto settings manually.

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I think room correction systems are great. I've used 4 versions of MCACC and have been very pleased with those. I used Audyssey for one year and was not so pleased with it. In ancient times, I used a sound meter and balanced the channels manually, with little confidence I was doing it right.

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if any one can help

i have used Microsoft room correction software and never heard surround better... is there any other software as it over rides with other sound card drivers and software's thanks guyz
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For me XT32 certainly does make the sound better, but:


I have three rows of four seats, I can only EQ the most important row, the middle. I then have amazing sound in the middle row.
Yet the other two rows are HORRIBLE!!!!


If I EQ two or three rows every row lacks bass and all three rows are then HORRIBLE!!!


If I use no EQ, all rows are similar, but lack the highs....


There is no perfect recipe with EQ, even hundreds and hundreds of mic placements never fixes multiple rows. If I only had one row of seats I would be in heaven

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i have used Microsoft room correction software and never heard surround better... is there any other software as it over rides with other sound card drivers and software's thanks guyz
What the heck is Microsoft room correction software? Never heard of it.
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So can any one rank them as to which does a better job

- Room Perfect
- DIRAC
- Audyssey XT32
- MCACC
- YPAO
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So can any one rank them as to which does a better job

- Room Perfect
- DIRAC
- Audyssey XT32
- MCACC
- YPAO
I used Audyssey XT32 Pro for years, and now use Dirac Live with the MiniDSP DDRC-88A, and prefer Dirac over Audyssey. The REW measurements show that frequency response results are similar, but Dirac shows improvements in the area of reduced reflections. Dirac also offers the ability to tailor the response with a powerful target curve editor, which Audyssey does not, and the 88A allows for storing up to four different target curves for quick switching.

FWIW, I also conducted a brief evaluation of the Anthem room correction technology while still using Audyssey, and preferred Audyssey.
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So can any one rank them as to which does a better job

- Room Perfect
- DIRAC
- Audyssey XT32
- MCACC
- YPAO
I can but won't since no two of them (excepting perhaps DIRAC full version suite) can be run on the same piece of hardware and that prevents a direct and fair comparison.

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I can but won't since no two of them (excepting perhaps DIRAC full version suite) can be run on the same piece of hardware and that prevents a direct and fair comparison.
Please privately! I am looking to replace my SSP-800
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Please privately! I am looking to replace my SSP-800
Nope. Would you choose a complex device like a prepro based solely on the EQ? And what's wrong with the SSP-800? Its (non-auto) PEQ is quite effective if you know how to use it.

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WSE without a Classe pre-pro? Unthinkable.

Why not consider the MiniDSP 88A? You get state-of-the-art Dirac Live RC in a 1U unit for only $1000. And you get to keep the SSP-800. A win-win.
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WSE without a Classe pre-pro? Unthinkable.

Why not consider the MiniDSP 88A? You get state-of-the-art Dirac Live RC in a 1U unit for only $1000. And you get to keep the SSP-800. A win-win.
This weekend I'm running a Classe Sigma SSP with the DDRC-88A handling room correction.

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WSE without a Classe pre-pro? Unthinkable.

Why not consider the MiniDSP 88A? You get state-of-the-art Dirac Live RC in a 1U unit for only $1000. And you get to keep the SSP-800. A win-win.
I just don't want an other box and tons of cable plus I want to be able to do 9.2.4 the SSP800 can't do that!
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I just don't want an other box and tons of cable plus I want to be able to do 9.2.4 the SSP800 can't do that!
If you want 9.2.4, then you are kind of limited to Audyssey correction, which is not a bad thing. Or if you could get past your fear of more boxes, and want Dirac Live, you can implement two 88A's. Several posters in the 88A thread have done that already, and Kbarnes701 is just about to take the leap.
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If you want 9.2.4, then you are kind of limited to Audyssey correction, which is not a bad thing. Or if you could get past your fear of more boxes, and want Dirac Live, you can implement two 88A's. Several posters in the 88A thread have done that already, and Kbarnes701 is just about to take the leap.
Not fear just ugly, my room is not suited for a bunch of ugly boxes!
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