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On Monday, December 30, from 2:00 to 3:00 PM Pacific time, I'll record the last Home Theater Geeks podcast of 2013. My guests will be journalists Geoff Morrison, Mike Heiss, and Barb Gonzalez, and we'll be discussing the most significant AV stories of the year, including UHD/4K, OLED, curved flat panels (an oxymoron if ever there was one!), Panasonic's exit from the plasma business, the proliferation of high-quality headphones, streaming news, and more.

 

To help prepare for the show, I'd love to know what you think are the most significant AV stories of 2013—perhaps one or more of the items listed above or something entirely different. Please post a comment here about what you were most struck by—for good or ill—in the world of audio and/or video for the home or commercial cinema.

 

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So, what are the most significant AV stories of 2013 as far as you're concerned?

 

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Panasonic's announcement that they were going discontinue Plasma television production.

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Panasonic's announcement that they were going discontinue Plasma television production.

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Panasonic's announcement that they were going discontinue Plasma television production.

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^^ folks seen that coming years ago so significant story, yes, big surprise, no.


Since lots of us here are waiting for affordable large FLAT OLEDs the Kateeva YIELDJet might be THE significant story of 2013. Time will tell smile.gif
http://gigaom.com/2013/11/20/startup-kateeva-to-super-size-oled-tvs-cell-phone-screens-for-less/
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Panasonic's announcement that they were going discontinue Plasma television production.

That's a big one, but I was also disappointment by the Panny/Sony announcement to end their OLED partnership. That could be a big deal down the road.

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Foxconn to bring TV-making jobs into US

Terry Gou said 2014 would be a fast-growing year for the Apple Inc supplier, the Commercial Times reported.

He said Hon Hai would shift manufacturing of 60-inch and 70-inch flat-screen TVs to the United States from Mexico, a move that would dramatically increase the company's U.S. investments from the current $40 million, the Commercial Times and the Economic Daily reported.

read more http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/20/honhai-revenue-idUSL3N0JZ04Z20131220

They make a lot of larger Sony TV's probably some others also . I read that foxconn may also make Foxconn brand sets in US also.

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Oled tvs finally out in 2013 cool.gif
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definitely the end of Panasonic plasmas. some others:
-end of ESPN 3D
-Xbox One Eighty (this will be studied in management courses for years)
-Chromecast makes streaming ultra cheap
-big budget box office disasters=more spinoffs and reboots to come
-WiSA speakers released
-vinyl sales continuing to rise
-Tivo Roamio debut (whole home DVRs on the rise in general)
-Ray Dolbys passing
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-Logitech's decision to sell Harmony (and then decide not to), their product line streamlining
-Samsung tries to "future proof" with Evolution kit
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JVC's RS projectors finally implement a DI (remains to be seen if this was a monumental achievement or colossal failure). Glad I'm not waiting on those 100" retractable OLED screens we were promised 5 years ago!
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Panasonic's announcement that they were going discontinue Plasma television production. That was a big news story of 2013.
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Xbone and PS4 in terms of what they have to offer the AV Consumer: Games, connectivity, HT potential

Panasonic sans plasma

Quantum Dots

High Dynamic Range

I guess OLED

The narrowing of the gap in size between Flat Panels and Projectors
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And I'm still mad that Pioneer pulled out 6 years ago lol
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I know not huge in the TV market but back then they were but I also find the story of Philips and Mitsubishi backing out of the business as well was quite significant because those were two companies that have been around for a long time and watching them pull out just reflects on how bad the economy is obstructing every side of the TV. Business
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here's what I remember off the top of my head:
-Panasonic leaving plasma(future of plasma now seriously in doubt frown.gif )
-OLED actually made it to market
-UHD TV's hit 'normal' stores
-next gen consoles released

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JVC's RS projectors finally implement a DI (remains to be seen if this was a monumental achievement or colossal failure). Glad I'm not waiting on those 100" retractable OLED screens we were promised 5 years ago!

I think that's a story for 2014, no? at least that's how I view it, otherwise it would have made my list too. same reason I didn't include HDR or glasses free 3D. they are stories for another year(whenever they get released)

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Not the biggest news story, but what is, in my opinion, the most significant a/v story is the availability of Sony's UHD movie service.  It's the first consumer device that delivers UHD content, albeit in propietary fashion, to consumers--however limited that consumer base may be. 

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"That's a big one, but I was also disappointment by the Panny/Sony announcement to end their OLED partnership. That could be a big deal down the road."

More money for them this way with price fixing.
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a major significant AV story this year is revolutionary in the plasma tech world regarding the brightest plasma panel ever produced, by Samsung, while at the same time also achieving excellent black levels. definitely deserves mention as no other has combined these qualities.

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a major significant AV story this year is revolutionary in the plasma tech world regarding the brightest plasma panel ever produced, by Samsung, while at the same time also achieving excellent black levels. definitely deserves mention as no other has combined these qualities.


lol don't get carried away, Panasonic VX100 (2008) was 25-30% brighter and held a lower black level without the use of any filter

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Sony's Tri-luminous displays (Quantum dots) bringing LED-LCD color accuracy to Plasma levels.

The emergence of 4K TV's into public awareness (I have guys from work asking me about 4k all the time now)

Streaming dominance...will it kill Blu Ray? (Millions of devices use Netflix and other streaming services...Netflix announces that the Sony PS3 is the most used device for Netflix...the same device that ushered in the era of Blu-Ray is also ushering in the era of Streaming!)

One of the biggest stories in the A/V scene is the release of the Next Generation Consoles: The PS4 and Xbox-1. Both are now Blu-Ray. Both have a heavy emphasis on streaming technologies. Both emphasize digital distribution models. Will these popular devices herald an end to physical media?

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Cutting the cord was also a big story for many of us who paid too much for cable....as subscribers decline and internet use rises with the introduction of Aereo as well as the popularity of binge watching and torrent sites. This is simliar to the music piracy craze of the late 1990s-2010s which culmintated in Pandora, Spotify, and Youtube providing cloud based music for free. DVR usage also is becoming mainstream for buzzworthy shows not to mention helping ratings of broadcast and especially cable tv shows.
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Cutting the cord was also a big story for many of us who paid too much for cable....as subscribers decline and internet use rises with the introduction of Aereo as well as the popularity of binge watching and torrent sites.

I think Time Warner Cable's CEO acknowledging that cable is too expensive is a pretty big story in itself. These guys have to look at their under 30 subscriber numbers and be scared of what they see. The base price for someone who only wants to watch Game of Thrones, Sons of Anarchy, and their local MLB team is going to be at least $60 or $70 on top of their internet bill.

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@Scott Wilkinson I remember an episode of HTG from sometime this year when your guest commented that he was recently at an industry seminar and a number of USC film school students in attendance said they didn't even own or care to own a television. If young people don't have tvs they are certainly not going to subscribe to satellite or cable tv programming. Their display is going to be some small mobile device. Without optical disc drives they will illegally download or buy what they want commercial free from iTunes/Amazon. Thats going to affect the kind of projects that get greenlit and will eventually trickle down to lost revenue for Hollywood films when it comes to home releases and tv broadcast rights.

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a major significant AV story this year is revolutionary in the plasma tech world regarding the brightest plasma panel ever produced, by Samsung, while at the same time also achieving excellent black levels. definitely deserves mention as no other has combined these qualities.


lol don't get carried away, Panasonic VX100 (2008) was 25-30% brighter and held a lower black level without the use of any filter

oops! i was not aware of that! thx...
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Cutting the cord was also a big story for many of us who paid too much for cable....as subscribers decline and internet use rises with the introduction of Aereo as well as the popularity of binge watching and torrent sites. This is simliar to the music piracy craze of the late 1990s-2010s which culmintated in Pandora, Spotify, and Youtube providing cloud based music for free. DVR usage also is becoming mainstream for buzzworthy shows not to mention helping ratings of broadcast and especially cable tv shows.

 

Yes, I think this trend will have a big impact on the industry.

It is a growing trend and as younger consumers age it will increase.


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oops! i was not aware of that! thx...

Some of the professional plasma displays esp. the Panasonic's were / are very bright . I think I saw something specified at well over 500cd/m2 .
maybe even as high as 900 or 1000 cd/m2 the specs were way brighter than any conventional TV specification that I'm aware of .
Some of the 60" use over 500 watts and they have at least one 103 " plasma that uses 1400 watts !

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For me, the train wreck that was Microsoft's announcement of the Xbox One and the constant bad PR leading up to the 180s. They even failed to focus test the name, took the internet all of 5 seconds to crown it the Xbone, and the name has stuck. It will take years to break free of the stigma that this PR disaster has caused.

The others are finally seeing OLED in respectable sizes and LED finally making some headway into front projection that isn't just 720p portables.

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For me, the train wreck that was Microsoft's announcement of the Xbox One and the constant bad PR leading up to the 180s. They even failed to focus test the name, took the internet all of 5 seconds to crown it the Xbone, and the name has stuck. It will take years to break free of the stigma that this PR disaster has caused.

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