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View Poll Results: What Is Your Next Home-Theater Purchase?
Flat-panel TV 80 16.60%
Projector 75 15.56%
Blu-ray player 17 3.53%
Dedicated streaming box 9 1.87%
AV receiver 62 12.86%
Preamp/processor 19 3.94%
Power amplifier 21 4.36%
Speakers 72 14.94%
Subwoofer 65 13.49%
Other 62 12.86%
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Old 06-21-2014, 11:29 AM
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I want to purchase a 4k display set. I want a window that I can look out and watch my movies.
However, the issue I have is will I be able to really tell the difference between a HD set and a 4K set at a viewing distance of around 6-8 feet?
I tried a test at the local Costco.They had three Samsung 4K sets setup along with various HD sets. All were fed the same test material.
At a distance of about 8 feet, the difference was not very discernible. I was , to say the least, very surprised. My brain told me I
should SEE a difference, darn it!! After all, it was 4K..ULTRA hi-def. My eyes, 20/20, told me a different story.
Is it possible 4K not OK?
Now, what do I do??
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Earlier in the week I just did an upgrade that really sharpens the picture on my Vizio 1080p TV: I got a new pair of glasses to replace the pair that had been allowed to get several years out of date. Now I can even see individual hairs of a head on a head shot from my viewing distance of 7 feet! Oh, last night I did see the "screen door" effect in one shot while streaming Close Encounters, but when the camera pulled back a bit I could see that the shot was indeed through a screen.
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Man Cave:Vizio E500i-A1 "Smart TV" (50-in 1080p 120Hz LED/LCD, has Netflix app.), Sony BDP-S3100 Blu-ray player, Roku N1000 (original model), PC (Windows 7), Comcast Internet (110Mbps/12Mbps).
Bedroom:LG 32LV3400-UA TV (32-in 768p 60Hz LED/LCD), HD DVR (Motorola RNG200N), Xfinity Comcast cable (Digital Preferred Plus), DVD/VHS player.
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EV what are you going to do with 6 Plasmas video wall ?

Oh the computer thing I recommend Google and the built in Pepper Flash player
are you talking about Shockwave or Flash ? I know you said shockwave but.... ?
Shockwave Flash whatever

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Ill probably end up giving some to friends and family...and keeping a few.

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Panasonic AX-200u / Optoma Graywolf 92" / Draper Luma 92"

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0. more movies to watch.

1. seating.
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Nothing unless somebody give me a offer I can't refuse, and also I upgrade my power outlets in my HT room
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Build is in Progress but the only gear left is a 110 in carada screen, a sub, and a streaming device...next year i would like to piece together a htpc
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Ultra HD, passive 3-D flat (not curved) panel TV at 84 inches or more. My 10 year-old 70 inch JVC LCoS RPJ is aesthetically challenged. It has worked flawlessly, and still gives a great, motion-blur-free, and vivid image. But it is a monster in the living room. Contrast Ratio is just 10,000:1, reviewed well back then - but it pales in comparison to even a $300 LCD on contrast. I just keep waiting for the standard to stabilize and price to drop
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Just picked up side surround bipoles. Will be doing the rear surrounds later this year.
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I want to purchase a 4k display set. I want a window that I can look out and watch my movies.
However, the issue I have is will I be able to really tell the difference between a HD set and a 4K set at a viewing distance of around 6-8 feet?
I tried a test at the local Costco.They had three Samsung 4K sets setup along with various HD sets. All were fed the same test material.
At a distance of about 8 feet, the difference was not very discernible. I was , to say the least, very surprised. My brain told me I
should SEE a difference, darn it!! After all, it was 4K..ULTRA hi-def. My eyes, 20/20, told me a different story.
Is it possible 4K not OK?
Now, what do I do??
Now just imagine if you had a REALLY good 1080p tv (I am assuming they didn't have one there) in the proper viewing environment to compare the two.

Unless your talking screen sizes of 70-80 plus inches from a 6-8 ft. Viewing distance, 4K just won't make a huge difference. And if being fed a 1080p signal it wont really make a difference at all.

The reason for this; as most videophiles would attest to, resolution is only one aspect of many that attribute to PQ. Moreover, many would agree that resolution is NOT one of the most important aspects. Blacklevel/contrast, color accuracy and motion resolution are all generally considered more important attributes to PQ.

For this reason, the top end plasma TVs still beat out most if not all LED TVs currently available (including 4k versions) in pure PQ. Unfortunately there aren't many plasmas left. In my opinion video/display technology is entering a period of transition and there is a lot of uncertainty. It makes a tough time to be in the market for a new tv.

When more questions are answered, 4K content is widely available, and I can get a 70-80 inch 4K OLED panel (that is NOT CURVED!) at a relatively affordable price let me know. Until then I will keep my 60ST60!

I am not necessarily telling you not to buy a 4K TV. Rather, providing some insight into what you may be seeing while comparing TVs and giving you my opinion based on the current TV market.

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A 77" OLED (flat or curved is inconsequential) is what I'm salivating over now.
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Next H.T . purchase lets see ................. maybe some of this !


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I gotta upgrade my Buttkicker BKA-1000 with an iNuke 6000 dsp for my subs. Then seating, then speakers for 11.1, then subs, then 4k projector, then...

Yeah, it will never end.
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Proably an AVR for me, my Onkyo NR-809 just died for the 2nd time, 11 days after an HDMI board replacement, I don't think I will settle for Onkyo repairing this for a 2nd time only for it to fail yet again, maybe, just maybe they'll give me some sort of pro-rated deal on an upgraded AVR, if not I am going with a different Mfct.
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I thought about this for awhile and realized that maybe we are in a lull of new and "got to have" technology. My theater is fully equipped and while it is lacking 3D capability I'm perfectly happy. Once you have a good projector, sound system and source material something has to come along that is a leap in performance to motivate me. I don't need anything right now. Didn't see that option in the voting.
This pretty well sums it up for me from an equipment standpoint. The real work is ahead however, as I take on the task of isolating and soundproofing my room. OSB, drywall, Green Glue, RSICs, hat channel, caulk, seal, ...repeat....

When REC. 2020, UHD/4K, High Dynamic Range projectors and source material becomes affordable, then I will start shopping for gear again.

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BASS SHAKERS!!! I can't wait to get my (4) Aura Pro's to go with a Dayton SA230, 230watt rack sub amp.....I couldn't afford the buttkicker LFE package....

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My next purchase will be for a better 120" projection screen

Projector: BenQ w1070 v1.06 + Painted N9 Grey 120" Screen
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There's what I'd like to buy and what I can afford. Right now it's not much. Maybe the next Apple TV when Apple finally replaces it. If I'm lucky, maybe Oppo 103D. But the now ancient Mitsubishi Diamond 65813 shuffles on in it's 11th year on duty and I have no idea how much longer it will last...it has shown problems in one of its guns warming up for better part of a year. It's no longer the TV of choice for the kids to watch...they default to a $500 42" Vizio in their play room. I'd love the replace the Mitsubishi with a 4K set at least 65" in size. But quality $4k can cost about $4k, and that's too much to swallow right now.

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I think a lot of us are waiting for tech that isn't out yet...

-new apple TV
-dolby atmos (12 channels plus) - I personally "want" at least 19 channels
-less expensive 4k displays/projectors
-4k content
-much faster streaming capability from cable providers (who are clearly throttling our streaming)
-itunes needs to upgrade all its music to at least lossless cd quality as an option
-better home automation - I am fascinated with what Homekit from apple will allow in terms of product integration
-perhaps the iWatch coupled with iBeacons to tell my home automation system where I am in the house or function as my house keys. even better would be a control system on my wrist for my home theater control.


What we can dream of and technologically already feasible is being held up by implementation and coordination between companies.
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I'm pretty happy with my current display, receiver, speakers, and source devices. All have been upgraded in the last 3 years (receiver and rear surrounds were just upgraded/added in the past 6 months). My next purchase likely doesn't exist yet, so I'm waiting to see what comes out in the next 6 to 12 months. A lot depends on what we hear about the progress of the BDA on a 4K physical format. If specs are set by the end of 2014 and a release date is announced for new players to come on the market by late 2015, then my next purchase will likely be a 65"+ 4K TV followed by a 4K disc player. On the other hand, if no progress has been made towards delivering a physical format for 4K then I will likely hold off on buying a 4K TV for another year. If significant improvements are made in streaming quality in that time then my top priority would likely be investing in a faster internet connection and setting my house up for wired ethernet (currently using DSL and wifi).

In the meantime, I will be spending my money on what is arguably the most important element in a home theater...content.
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Speakers and sub in my main system. Currently have PolK RTi line up with RTi12 towers and HSU VFT2-MK-3 sub. Looking at Goldenear Triton , Polk LiSM, PSB T, B&W CM, Sonus Faber Venere as possible upgrades. Sub upgrade HSU VF-15 or SVS SB2000. Most recent purchase was the OPPO 103 last year. Like my currrent system but could get better with a speacker upgrade.
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Would like to upgrade my Panasonic VT25 TV but waiting to if OLED ever becomes viable.
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Going to buy a HTPC set up so I can record my sporting events in HI-DEF and eventually burn them onto blu-ray
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I voted for a projector. (On second thought, I should have chosen "Other".) I currently have a Sharp XV-Z20000 that I absolutely love. I've been waiting for LED to surpass bulbs as a light engine. Perhaps by the time I've saved my pennies up that will be the case.


Upon reflection (pun intended) I think I would like to upgrade my anamorphic lens first. Either will take some cash.
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Didn't see the option for "new house with more room for a dedicated theater," so I went with "other."
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Considering my theater will be close to being finished in a month, I need something to power it !! Looking at a Prepro. The XMC-1 was high on my list, but that is over now, so I am looking in a different direction. I am not sure if I wait for the Atmos or just hold on and enjoy the price drops of the older units. I just don't know if I can wait. Even If I get an Atmos unit, it could be months before it is useable.
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Considering my theater will be close to being finished in a month, I need something to power it !! Looking at a Prepro. The XMC-1 was high on my list, but that is over now, so I am looking in a different direction. I am not sure if I wait for the Atmos or just hold on and enjoy the price drops of the older units. I just don't know if I can wait. Even If I get an Atmos unit, it could be months before it is useable.
By the time the XMC gets released, it will be 2 generations behind: (1) no heights or wides and (2) no Atmos.

May be the best example I can think of for the expression: "a day late and a dollar short".

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By the time the XMC gets released, it will be 2 generations behind: (1) no heights or wides and (2) no Atmos.

May be the best example I can think of for the expression: "a day late and a dollar short".
The XMC-1 is an amazing piece of equipment. It was one of the biggest pre pros to never make it to the market. I said in the emo thread that they should bag this unit and start over on another unit and don't even mention it till it is available. They should also ditch the dirac thing.

My personal feeling is that if this unit would have been delivered as promised in January, they would have done well. Most people were and are stuck at 7.1/7.2, however with the announcement of Atmos, I think it has generated allot of interest and some people like myself are now looking at Atmos in a little different now.

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What is the definition of a home theater system? Is it the conservative definition, the liberal definition, or the prima donna definition?


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My next purchase will be another receiver, (I just got one for HDMI 2.0) for Atmos. It would at least make me feel a bit better if they had waited until the end of 2014 to announce this. But no, they announce it right after manufacturers release the first batch of 2014 receivers and many already had made purchases. I know I don't have to get one but I want Atmos and I can easily sell my receiver and just loose a small amount of money. Guys like me are good for the industry.
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