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Never 62 22.55%
Once 93 33.82%
2-3 times 83 30.18%
4-5 times 22 8.00%
More than 5 times 15 5.45%
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post #1 of 78 Old 08-29-2014, 12:06 PM - Thread Starter
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How Often Have You Replaced Your Primary Projector In The Last 10 Years?



Do you stick with old faithful or replace it every year or two? What drives you to replace your projector?

Last week, I asked how often you've replaced your main TV in the last 10 years. In the comments, it was made clear that the same question can be asked about projectors, and I completely agree. But I also realize that projectors occupy a very small part of the display market—in the single digits overall, though nearly 30% of AVS members use a projector as their primary display according to this poll last April.

If you use a projector as your primary display, how often have you replaced it in the last 10 years? What led you to do so?

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2008 Sony Black Pearl VPL-VW60 still going strong, new bulb every two years or 1,400 hrs.
I've got the urge to upgrade however the darbee darblet gave me enough life to hold on till 4k/other PJ technology matures more, 2016/2017.

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Scott. You changed the question during your post. You end with if you use your projector as your primary display and you lead off with how many times have you changed your primary projector. i think you might want to make your questions consistent at leat have two polls, how may use their projector as your primary display and how often do you change it for one poll. And the second, how many times have your replaced your primary projector.

My answers would be I have never used a projector as my primary display. but I have replaced my primary projector over the last ten years well well over 10 times, probably close to 20 times, but since I purchased a Sony VPL-vw1000ES over two years ago, I have not replaced it or sen any reason too though i did get it field upgraded as most 1000ES owners did, to a Sony VPL-vw1100ES.
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2008 Sony Black Pearl VPL-VW60 still going strong, new bulb every two years or 1,400 hrs.
I've got the urge to upgrade however the darbee darblet gave me enough life to hold on till 4k/other PJ technology matures more, 2016/2017.

I have an Epson PowerLite Pro Cinema 1080 projector since March 2007 and still running without any problems. I had to change the bulb 3 times thus far. Had the upgrade bug last year but instead I added a Darbee Darblet which gave this projector new life. Was really surprised how much better the picture looked with the Darbee. Probably get another few years out of this unit, God willing. At this point I will wait to see how 4k turns out over the next few years.
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I've change projectors once now. I had my first one for about 18 months. I like to buy new before the bulb, as my cost difference in my budget is negotiable.
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2008 Sony Black Pearl VPL-VW60 still going strong, new bulb every two years or 1,400 hrs.
I've got the urge to upgrade however the darbee darblet gave me enough life to hold on till 4k/other PJ technology matures more, 2016/2017.

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I have an Epson PowerLite Pro Cinema 1080 projector since March 2007 and still running without any problems. I had to change the bulb 3 times thus far. Had the upgrade bug last year but instead I added a Darbee Darblet which gave this projector new life. Was really surprised how much better the picture looked with the Darbee. Probably get another few years out of this unit, God willing. At this point I will wait to see how 4k turns out over the next few years.
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I have a Mitsubishi HC6500 since 2010 and I also was itchin' to upgrade but the magic Darbee Darblet has scatched that itch, at least until entry level 4K is around.

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To actually answer the question, three times.
2006 - Sony HS51a
2008 - Samsung SP-H710AE, returned due to malfunctions, does not count
2008 - Sim2 Domino 30
2010 - Mitsubishi HC6500


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I have gone through only one change of projector in the last 10 years(and bulb changes in between of course). I started off an Infocus 4805 which lasted me a good 5 years. I then switched to a Sony VPL-VW40 and have stayed with it since. I also added a Darbee drablet to the video queue like the poster above and am using a Dalite CIH High Power screen.

I would rather wait for all the 4K standards to be finalized before I decide to revamp to a 4K/3D Unit.

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Once.

My first projector was a standard-def 720x480 widescreen LCD projector from Sony. I had to replace it because the replacement bulb ran too hot and scorched the LCD panel; and HDMI came along at about the same time.

My second is an HDMI-connected 16:9 1080P 2D DLP from Mitsubishi. It's still on its first bulb at about 2100 Hours.

I'm thinking about replacing it with a 1080p 3D projector with laser/LED illumination. I like the 20K hour lifetime.
So far as I'm concerned, 4K is not yet ready for prime-time, especially given all the questions with regard to what version of HDCP might be needed.

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my first projector was the H79 from Optima which was a 720P DLP dark chip 3? I wasn't pleased when the list price dropped 30% less than a year after release and was doubly disturbed when it incinerated bulbs at the rate of one every 350 hrs. I then upgraded to a CIH set up with 1080P Planar 8150. The flying saucer of projectors and I couldn't be happier.
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I'm not sure if I qualify to answer but I've had a 60" Panasonic RPTV (which arguably is a projector) since 2005 and only recently changed the bulb .. first one .. even though the TV has arguably been our primary on and off again. But it's starting to randomly power itself off so I'm looking at moving to a front projector in the next few months.. probably a BENQ W1500 .. until the UHD standards are a little more clear and prices have come down a bit.
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Do you stick with old faithful or replace it every year or two? What drives you to replace your projector?

Last week, I asked how often you've replaced your main TV in the last 10 years. In the comments, it was made clear that the same question can be asked about projectors, and I completely agree. But I also realize that projectors occupy a very small part of the display market—in the single digits overall, though nearly 30% of AVS members use a projector as their primary display according to this poll last April.

If you use a projector as your primary display, how often have you replaced it in the last 10 years? What led you to do so?

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I first purchased an Infocus 5700 about 8 and 1/2 years ago and about 4 years ago upgraded to an Infocus X10 which still is going strong. I am in the market for a new projector but might go for a bulb change to add a few more years to the X10. 3D is a non-starter for me and the 4K projectors are both too expensive and there is little out there to take advantage of this new definition.

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Greetings,

My history goes something like this:

First Projector: 2003 = Sony VPL-HS10

2004 = Sony VPL-HS51
2005 = Sony VPL-HS51a
2006 = Sony VPL-VW50
2008 = JVC RS-1x
2008 = JVC RS-20
2010 = JVC RS-50
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first pj was a panny 4000 - i would have kept it until it died but we included it with the sale of the last house - new pj is a panny 8000 and will keep it until it dies or something makes it no longer compatible with the world -
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I'm on my third projector in the last ten years. My first was the Optoma H31. I loved that little thing. Then onto the Benq W5000 with the advent of HD. It had an amazingly sharp image with lens shift and everything (big for a DLP back then). Sadly, it turned out to not be a very robust machine. The lens shift stopped working, then it entirely crapped the bed when the image split in half. Needless to say, I was less than impressed with BenQ customer service. My next pj was the Optoma HD3300 and it has been amazing - great 3D, sharp, clean image and anamorphic lens friendly. I don't have any intention of upgrading it until it dies or 4k pjs become reasonably priced.

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Still on my first, a Panny 4000 which serves its purpose just fine. I would probably upgrade if I could get pq in a projector that is comparable to the latest epson or low-mid tier sony's but does not have 3d. I have no desire to pay a dime for 3d and if not having it could save at least a few hundred dollars, then that would be great.

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2008 gently used marantz vp12s4 that I bought for $1000 from second act. Built like a tank and still going strong
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2008 - Epson 8100 (first front PJ)
2011 - JVC RS40 Bstock
2014 - JVC RS4910

Sitting still unit 4k/UHD is sorted out.
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First Projector - 2009


Second Projector - 2012


Third Projector - 2013


Fourth Projector - 2014


So, FOUR times at a ridiculous rate.
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My list of projectors looks like this:

1996 - Sharp XG-690U
2000 - Dukane 8800 (rebadged Hitachi 960)
2003 - Hitachi 960WA (used)
2006 - Hitachi TX100
2011 - Mitsubishi HC4900U (used)
2014 - Sony VPL-HW40

I voted 3. Generally I replace every projector sometime during the second lamp, which comes out to every 3-5 years. I've never had a projector quit working BTW. So that implies that I upgraded for better performance.

The performance of the HW40 is good enough that I probably won't upgrade again until 4K is inexpensive. I might even hold out for 10-bit color.
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Never, I just bough my first projector, and loving it.
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Started off with a Panny 1000 in 2005. Replaced it with a Epson 1080UB in 2008. Replaced the Epson with Sony VPLHW50ES in 2013. Probably will keep the Sony until 4K settles down.
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Bought my first projector, an Optoma H78, in 2005. Upgraded to my Vango LED DLP in 2011 I believe. I could see adding a cheap 3d projector since I have a healthy amount of 3d Blurays but can't see ditching the Vango until it dies on me or a higher resolution physical format completely takes over. Even then I'm likely to upgrade my main tv and build a library for a few years.

1080p was the main reason for the upgrade as the H78 was purchased in the DVD age. Also I wanted something I could watch all the time with no fear of bulb life since back then I pretty much lived in my basement between the home theater and office.

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My list:

2004 - Optima H78
2006 - JVC RS1
2012 - JVC RS4810

If JVC comes out with a native 4k projector with a new light engine in 2015, I will probably buy it. If not, the 4810 will keep me satisfied for another year or two.
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(1) Original JVC digital PJ; (2) Marquee 9 inch CRT; (3) JVC RS2; (4) JVC RS55; (5) Sony 600ES.

I can see no changes coming that would interest me. What I have is the brightest and cleanest picture I have ever owned, it has 3D capability which I have yet to try (no interest) and I have entered the world of retirement.

That said, I have been here before

My first PJ was in about 1993 (Sony 7 inch CRT), the went to a Runco then to the first JVC.

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Haven't been into av long, maybe 3 years at most, so I guess my ten year clock started in 2012.

My first projector was an optoma hd100x and it send me spiraling down the rabbit hole, and I have yet to emerge and honestly I don't want to, I am indeed an AV nut.

The last few years have been expensive, buying all new gear as I could barely afford it, but this is a projector thread so back on topic.

february 2012: optoma hd100x, still mounted but not used, currently has 2000+ hours on the bulb.
In November 2013 I was offered an ok deal on a sony hw50, during my dive down the rabbit hole I had demoed a few Sony projectors at other enthusiasts ht's including an hw50,vw95, and even the vw1000 and the choice was easy, the Sony has the lowest input lag for gaming, runs brighter, and quieter than any other that I could consider. In short, the hw5x projectors are great all rounders and that was precisely what I wanted.

I hope to be able too keep this for 3-5 years, and who knows, I might drop projector entirely in favor of a large oled.

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I bought my BenQ w1070 almost two years ago and use it for my primary display (well, most of the time). I have nearly 4000 hours on the bulb so far, and have had exactly zero issues other than wanting deeper blacks and / or 4K and / or 120hz 3D input at 1080p.

I think if I'm lucky within a year or two I just may be able to sell this projector when a super cheap 4K equivalent model comes out. Otherwise I'll pick up another bulb and keep it. I've seen UHD TVs and me wantsssss it! But not at the cost of several thousand dollars + losing all this glorious screen real estate. I may just end up picking up a small ish UHD flat panel to work on and just keep using my projector for watching shows and playing games on.

That all said, the biggest limitation to the display quality that I face every day is watching streamed content at 720p or low bitrate 1080p, instead of good quality native 1080p. I use the best quality upconversion filters in MadVR and even though it makes low rez (720p or lower) stuff bearable, it's nowhere near good enough to max out the inherent display quality potential I already have. So, in a lot of ways, it's content that has to catch up with display tech.

Q) Why can't I buy The X-Files or Seinfeld on Bluray yet? I'm re-watching those series with my girlfriend 480p and at this size it's a blurry mess. Ugh. The content is so great, that it's worth it, but just barely.

Getting 4K res on a projector, even though it likely wouldn't benefit watching movies 99% of the time (even if I do get a UHD Blurays), still benefits me in A) desktop and text and static images, B) showing multiple 1080p movies at the same time, C) reading AVS forum while I watch a 1080p movie other there on that part of the screen, D) PC games. And maybe even E), the finer pixel structure just makes everything better overall.

The only reason I'd upgrade this BenQ to another 1080p model is if it had FreeSync support via DisplayPort 1.3 or 1.2a (that would be an "instant buy" for me), much higher contrast at low prices, and HDR. HDR on projectors is a sight to behold, simply stunning. That would also be "instant buy", definitely.

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