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View Poll Results: Is Your Primary Display HD or UHD/4K?
HD 759 75.67%
UHD 148 14.76%
Faux-K 19 1.89%
True 4K 77 7.68%
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post #31 of 220 Old 06-15-2015, 03:16 PM
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I'll remain 1080p until we get High Dynamic Range 4K displays
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I think you'd better post a more descriptive notice as to what each of the 4 selections mean.
I voted UHD even though Faux 4K may mean the same (?). True 4K I assume you mean 4K, not 3.8K
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Samsung 64" 1080p plasma that I will be keeping for years...
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I am fine with my Panasonic VT60 and backup VT60 until 4K settles down and there is content that takes advantage of all the features of 4K such as wider gamut and dynamic range as well as a worthier PQ to Panasonic's plasmas. As for the resolution I sit too far away to have the 4K resolution make a difference.
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My primary display is 65VT50 Plasma.bedroom I have Sansung 60F8000 LED.
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I have a Samsung PN60F8500 in the living room and a Pioneer 111FD in the bedroom. Would like to have a something new in 4K but can't see the point....yet.
Thats my same set up! Great minds think alike!!!

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1080p, will remain that way for a long time. If they ever manufacture 1440p TV's again, then I might consider jumping.
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My HD projector seems to deliver the goods. I don't have much of a craving for higher resolution that what I've got. Though I will eventually make the jump once the content is abundent, it's just not that tempting to me. I'm shocked at my own feelings, as I recall as far back as 2008 hearing about 4k and telling myself I'd be all over that when the day comes.

3D, now that's never interested me...
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Samsung 64" 1080p plasma that I will be keeping for years...
Here's hoping yours lasts longer than mine did.
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151 elite in the man cave a 150 elite in the family room and a 110 elite in the bedroom I picked that one up couple months ago for $150
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Scott,

I love your stuff! However, I think this poll may have been put out about a year tor two early. The 4k sets that are out now, which are within reach of most aficionados who can afford them, are still lacking in contrast ratio and the ability to produce a nice black, which as we all know is the most important aspect of picture quality, regardless of resolution. I have a Panny Plasma 60 inch as my main living room set and an Epson 5030 UB projector firing onto a 100 inch screen in my mini theater, both Kevin Miller calibrated. In short, 4k can take a hike for now. No content for it, no hardware for it and my fios cable service only broadcast in 1080I/720P. Even if I could afford both a TV and Projector upgrade to 4k, would it be worth the tremendous cost?! Alternatively, I think next generation sound, like Atmos or whatever DTS will put out, will make more sense, as far as spending is concerned (I'm still running lossless, until DTS makes up its mind. I know that if I live long enough, PERHAPS I will have to upgrade to 4k, as things break down over the years, but man am I so loving my plasma and projector! God Bless all! - W
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Taking price out of the equation is it worthwhile to switch from a Sharp Elite LED to a Sony 4K XBR850C model?
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I have two plasmas and I don't even have an itch to change yet. There is nothing broadcast in 4K... Look have long it took for the network's to get onboard with HD by the time we have more real sources that broadcasts 4K.. then I will get more serious.
I Think the question should be when do you think we will need a 4K display...

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1080P here with a 2.5 yr old Panasonic 55VT50. Excellent TV, I am going to stick with it another 2-3 yrs and make a choice then. UHD is really impressive, but I still havn't found a TV that I feel is as good (or better) than my VT-50. Now a 4K OLED might do the trick, but I havn't seen one of them in person yet.

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Still running 1080p on all my TV's which are a Samsung PN64D8000, Samsung UN55H7150, Samsung UN48H6350, and a Samsung LN52B750.I do however have a true 4K Monitor for my Home Office/Gaming PC. I'm using a 31" LG 31MU97-B which is a 4096 x 2160 monitor. It's part of a 4 monitor setup and it's being powered by an EVGA Geforce GTX 980 Ti and the other 3 monitors are being powered by another 2 EVGA Geforce GTX 980's in SLI Config. As far as I know that is the only true 4K monitor on the market and it is Beautiful but does have a few minor issues. I'm currently waiting to upgrade the 2 980's for 2 980 Ti's through EVGA's step up program and once that happens I'll be running the 4K in SLI and the other 3 on the 3rd 980 Ti. The other monitors are an Acer 27" 2560x1440 and 2 Asus 24" 1920x1080.
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Still driving five 1080p TV's here one a late 2012 Toshiba CCFL LCD , 3 are 2013 models a Sony LED <(real decent and most watched by me ) ,LG LED (decent but could have better blacks ) and Samung Plasma <(the top dog here no question of that ) and a 40"Dynex with a decent Samsung panel as one of 3 PC displays for DAWS ,Editors ,VST plugins YT vidios etc etc.in the studio .

OTOH after a couple of recent visits to Best Buy Magnolia despite the naysayers I can see a case for 2160p in lets say 50" up depending on distance and ofc the new wider color gamuts and HDR type things ..... or maybe even 40"-50" 2160p in a desktop configuration to apparch a decent pixel density at 40" for a PC ☻☻ OTOH being a habitual cheapskate ............. I might wait a bit but if I needed a set *now it would likley be a 2160p set.matbe 8K will approach real life someday in a (the real ) total recall window wall way ?

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82" Mitsu DLP in my HT for now. This is where I do all my serious watching. Still works great and if I replace it with a new TV it will be the Vizio Reference 120" but I doubt that will happen any time soon. Projector wouldn't make sense in this house due to support beam. 70" Sharp Quattron in living room. This TV sucks but it is less than 3 years old and if I buy a new TV any time soon my wife will cut off my balls! We use this to watch regular TV, Netflix, Amazon and Vudu. No serious watching. Vizio 4k 50" in the bedroom. Only stream from the TV using Netflix, Amazon and Vudu.
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Boy I feel like dummy,I got a 65 in Vizio uhdtv coming Wednesday
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I love your stuff! However, I think this poll may have been put out about a year tor two early. The 4k sets that are out now, which are within reach of most aficionados who can afford them, are still lacking in contrast ratio and the ability to produce a nice black, which as we all know is the most important aspect of picture quality, regardless of resolution. I have a Panny Plasma 60 inch as my main living room set and an Epson 5030 UB projector firing onto a 100 inch screen in my mini theater, both Kevin Miller calibrated. In short, 4k can take a hike for now. No content for it, no hardware for it and my fios cable service only broadcast in 1080I/720P. Even if I could afford both a TV and Projector upgrade to 4k, would it be worth the tremendous cost?! Alternatively, I think next generation sound, like Atmos or whatever DTS will put out, will make more sense, as far as spending is concerned (I'm still running lossless, until DTS makes up its mind. I know that if I live long enough, PERHAPS I will have to upgrade to 4k, as things break down over the years, but man am I so loving my plasma and projector! God Bless all! - W
Ask any Samsung UNXXHU8000/8550/8700/9000 owner and I think you'll find most of them on the positive side of the ledger. 6 months in, great blacks and colour, and now with the new SEK-3500 attached, UHD now, HDR coming, plus other updates to follow, make one heck of a set.
Samsung has given us an inexpensive way to upgrade for approximately $400, and we have 4K now. Not a lot to watch, but expanding fast. I swore I wouldn't jump to later, but now glad that I did.
Re the Plasmas - my HU9000 passes the Spears and Munsil II Blu-ray Motion tests with flying colours. More than I can say for my F8500 that fails the 24/30 tests, and only passes when it gets to 60! Both great looking sets, each have their +s and -s. F8500 in the basement where the heat isn't noticeable, the 9000 upstairs in my room, where I don't need any heat issues.
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Taking price out of the equation is it worthwhile to switch from a Sharp Elite LED to a Sony 4K XBR850C model?
From what I've read, the 850C is pretty buggy with the new Android software. Other than that, I still would say no. The Sharp Elites were extremely nice sets 3 years ago. If it is working well for you now, I would stick with it until the new tech standards shake out. The only reason I am getting UHD now is because my plasma died and could not be repaired (no parts available).
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I think you'd better post a more descriptive notice as to what each of the 4 selections mean.
I voted UHD even though Faux 4K may mean the same (?). True 4K I assume you mean 4K, not 3.8K
HD = 1920x1080, 1366x768, 1280x720, etc.; mostly 1920x1080 these days
UHD = 3840x2160
True 4K = 4096x2160
Faux-K = 1920x1080 with rapid pixel shifting or splitting to simulate 3840x2160

I updated the OP to include these definitions.
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When FLAT 4K 75"+ with better blacks than their 1080P counterparts hit the market and there is more content available, I'm in.
Until then, I will stick with my 70" 1080P

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I salute early adopters who have bought UHD/4K displays, but I wonder how many there are compared with those who have remained at 1080p?

With the rapid proliferation of UHD (3840x2160) TVs by manufacturers, I have no doubt that many AVS members now use them as their primary display—that is, the one they watch for their most serious viewing. And Sony makes an entire line of true 4K (4096x2160) projectors, but other consumer-oriented projectors—in particular, the JVC line and Epson's LS10000—are "faux-K" at best, simulating UHD resolution by quickly moving the pixels around. Otherwise, consumer projectors are still 1080p (1920x1080).

The question is, how many AVS members have made the leap to UHD/4K relative to those who have remained at 1080p? I'm sure it's way more than the mainstream, but how much more, I wonder? Is your primary display HD, UHD, faux-K, or true 4K?

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I'm perfectly happy with my 1080p - but I caught myself looking at the right part (4k) of the image and saying to myself "ooh that does look much less pixelated and way more vibrant!" ... then I remembered I was looking at it on a 1080p screen. The only way I can explain that is that the image on the left must have been altered to look much worse than a 1080p image, thus enhancing the perception of 4k being so much better. Am I wrong here?

EDIT: Just noticed post # 50 with a closer approximation of the actual resolution in the 2 pictures (480 / 1080p)

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I'm perfectly happy with my 1080p - but I caught myself looking at the right part (4k) of the image and saying to myself "ooh that does look much less pixelated and way more vibrant!" ... then I remembered I was looking at it on a 1080p screen. The only way I can explain that is that the image on the left must have been altered to look much worse than a 1080p image, thus enhancing the perception of 4k being so much better. Am I wrong here?
I'm sure the image is a simulation of some sort; I'm just using it as an indicative graphic because anything on the home page needs a graphic at the top.
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I voted, 1080
Like many, I am on the waiting fence to see where all the dust settle.


Hardware is now available but no software.
Last time I ask the question about replacing my JVC front projector.
Most response was no and wait.


I am also on the same fence when it come to Atmos (software is starting to be available).
For me, it would mean another $4000 pre-amp then to be replace when DTS come out with their own version, a new amp and 4 more matching speakers, a total of $8000.


It start to be an expensive game if you want to stay within the mid high-end game.


I would like to do an up-grade one more time and be Done.


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I will wait for 8K to come out, then I will buy a 4K.
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Samsung UHD 55" TV with no 4K/UHD sources until possibly later on around Christmas time.

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I made the jump from a 36" CRT that wasnt even flat to a 55" UHD sammy.

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i would totally go uhd for the benefits of hfr and wider color gamut and consider the extra resolution a happy bonus. but at this time, the market for projectors is too big of a jump in price, and for tv's, it's really a downgrade in overall quality, just because we're comparing 'high end' 1080p tv's to 'mid-range' uhd ones basically.

when i can get uhd projectors(and they are on par with today's jvc's otherwise) or a large, flat, uhd oled or really good FALD LCD for under 5grand, i'll definitely put one on the wish list.

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