Since logitech recently gutted their harmony forum, I'm duplicating some of my posts over here so all my work and research doesn't disappear. I'd like to make this a sticky and have others add their own tips as well.
Thanks generallee. I didn't even know it had a reset. Is it just a button inside the unit? What does it look like? Thank you again and have a great day.
i have a logitech 650, i had it programmed for activity to watch TV, but recently i dont know what happened it turns everything off and then turns cable box back on.
there are only 3 things on this activity. TV, Cable box, and AVR. Any thoughts??
You remote is out if sync, i.e. The Harmony "thinks" that all your devices are off, but actually some of them are on.
You can either use the "Help" button OR do the following to bring it back in sync:
* Turn all your devices off manually or using their original remotes
* Go in another room/put your hand on the front of the Harmony in a way that it will completely cover the IR emitters and then press the "Turn off" button on the Harmony.
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Originally Posted by Olbi /forum/post/20804224
You remote is out if sync, i.e. The Harmony "thinks" that all your devices are off, but actually some of them are on.
You can either use the "Help" button OR do the following to bring it back in sync:
* Turn all your devices off manually or using their original remotes
* Go in another room/put your hand on the front of the Harmony in a way that it will completely cover the IR emitters and then press the "Turn off" button on the Harmony.
i am still having this problem, i tried the help button which guided me to turning it off, but who wants to keep doing that every time i hit all off....the second option did not work for me....uggh!!
There is some reason why the remote gets out of sync: either you/your wife/kids turn one or more drives on or off manually or with their remotes OR or you have HDMI-CEC turned on on more than one device OR your activity isn't properly setup (i.e. you have power on/off commands other than the ones which the software automatically set up OR you've added additional power on/off/toggle command as part of the activity).
What exactly happens when you turn all devices off with their remotes and then
turn them on with their remotes one by one with 30 sec. intervals in between? Make sure that you turn them on in the exact same sequence that is in the Harmony setup!
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Originally Posted by Olbi /forum/post/20805163
There is some reason why the remote gets out of sync: either you/your wife/kids turn one or more drives on or off manually or with their remotes OR or you have HDMI-CEC turned on on more than one device OR your activity isn't properly setup (i.e. you have power on/off commands other than the ones which the software automatically set up OR you've added additional power on/off/toggle command as part of the activity).
What exactly happens when you turn all devices off with their remotes and then
turn them on with their remotes one by one with 30 sec. intervals in between? Make sure that you turn them on in the exact same sequence that is in the Harmony setup!
what normally happened prior to having the 650 was that i used cable remote, which turned on cable box, tv and then avr would switch on hdmi-cec.
activity turns on i believe( it happens so fast) box, tv, avr....but avr comes on right behind tv...faster than before.....when i hit all off.....cable box goes first, tv, avr....then cable box back on...... i'm going to delete my activity and redo it...see if that works
thanks for the suggestions.......also what is the difference in buttons(power on, power off, toggle power) dont they all do the same thing?
You want to use the discrete Power buttons when possible. If you use Power Toggle it will alternate between On and Off with each click. Using Power On to power on the device will only turn it on. If the device is already on and you press Power On again then it will do nothing, same for Power Off. If you power on your device with Power Toggle then hit Power Toggle again then it will turn it off.
Make sure you use discrete commands where possible and turn off HDMI CEC.
I've written a Python script for adding Pronto codes to your Harmony account. You need to have an understanding of how to install and use Python software, but if you know that then you should have no problem. Here's the link:
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Originally Posted by dave0holla /forum/post/0
what normally happened prior to having the 650 was that i used cable remote, which turned on cable box, tv and then avr would switch on hdmi-cec.
activity turns on i believe( it happens so fast) box, tv, avr....but avr comes on right behind tv...faster than before.....when i hit all off.....cable box goes first, tv, avr....then cable box back on...... i'm going to delete my activity and redo it...see if that works
thanks for the suggestions.......also what is the difference in buttons(power on, power off, toggle power) dont they all do the same thing?
Turn HDMI-CEC off on all devices. I think that it is the one that is messing up!
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As explained above, the power on and power off commands are discrete, i.e. the power on command will turn a device on regardless of how many times the command is issued. Therefore after a remote sends a power on command, the device will be turned on, regardless of whether it was on or off before the command. The power off command works in a similar way, only that it will turn the device off.
The power toggle command, though, will alternatively turn the device on and off. This is great when you know for sure that a device is on or off, but the Harmony cannot communicate with the device to find out whether the it is on or off and the remote has to alternate an internal device status in order to "know" whether it is on or off.
That tracking works only if the device is turned on or off only with the Harmony remote (otherwise it couldn't keep the device state in sync), i.e. if you turn the TV on manually, the remote will "think" that the TV us still off and will try to turn it on. Now, if you are using a discrete command to turn the TV on it wouldn't matter since at the end the TV will be on and the remote will "know" that the TV is on, i.e. they'll get in sync, but, if you are using a power toggle command, the TV will turn off instead and the remote and the TV will stay out of sync!
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One of the "features" of HDMI-CEC is that it will turn on and off the devices that are connected to the device that is being turned on or off. That could be an useful feature in some cases, but it messes up with universal remotes as the Harmony since it keeps the devices and the remote out of sync. Hopefully that long explanation above will convince you that you should turn HDMI-CEC off.
Originally Posted by Olbi
Turn HDMI-CEC off on all devices. I think that it is the one that is messing up!
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As explained above, the power on and power off commands are discrete, i.e. the power on command will turn a device on regardless of how many times the command is issued. Therefore after a remote sends a power on command, the device will be turned on, regardless of whether it was on or off before the command. The power off command works in a similar way, only that it will turn the device off.
The power toggle command, though, will alternatively turn the device on and off. This is great when you know for sure that a device is on or off, but the Harmony cannot communicate with the device to find out whether the it is on or off and the remote has to alternate an internal device status in order to "know" whether it is on or off.
That tracking works only if the device is turned on or off only with the Harmony remote (otherwise it couldn't keep the device state in sync), i.e. if you turn the TV on manually, the remote will "think" that the TV us still off and will try to turn it on. Now, if you are using a discrete command to turn the TV on it wouldn't matter since at the end the TV will be on and the remote will "know" that the TV is on, i.e. they'll get in sync, but, if you are using a power toggle command, the TV will turn off instead and the remote and the TV will stay out of sync!
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One of the "features" of HDMI-CEC is that it will turn on and off the devices that are connected to the device that is being turned on or off. That could be an useful feature in some cases, but it messes up with universal remotes as the Harmony since it keeps the devices and the remote out of sync. Hopefully that long explanation above will convince you that you should turn HDMI-CEC off.
i dont know what happened but i got it to work.....when i turned off the hdmi-cec my avr would not turn off....i tried a couple things but nothing, i tried turning off the avr with the harmony from the device menu and it kept turning off the cable box, even tried reprogramming it...nothing.....i then noticed that my sound was coming from my tv and i couldnt control the avr....i then turned hdmi-cec back on.....and voila...it now works.....i hit all off and everything stays off.....i hit watch tv and everything is copasetic.....thanks everyone!!!
I have searched on here but cant seem to find it. I would like my sound bar and my tv speakers volume to go up and down at the same time with the volume up down on the logitech remote. i have seen claims that it is possible but cant seem to figure out how to do this. is there a macros that will do this?
I haven't tried it, but I would make two sequences and assign them to the volume +/- buttons. One sequence would be vol+ of TV and then vol+ of sound bar. The other would be vol- of each. It would send both commands when you push the volume button.
That would work, but you wouldn't get the normal volume repeating action when the buttons are held. Also, most harmonys can't do sequences anymore, including the 650, unless you use the stand-alone software or members.harmonyremote.com or the raw learn work-around.
Has anyone thought of how to speed up the process of replacing the remote? When you replace the remote on the current Harmony account with a new remote, all customized buttons are gone, and so are the soft buttons on activities. It is time consuming and tedious, almost like starting from the beginning if you have a lot of devices and activities.
I'm wondering if there is a way to create a list of settings, e.g. mapped buttons, activity soft buttons, device power settings,... like an inventory report I have not seen any feature like that on either the PC remote SW or at members.harmonyremote.com.
Great question. I always have them clone my account so I can open the original in members.harmonyremote.com for reference at the same time I configure the new remote starting with the cloned account in the stand-alone software. I suppose you could do a lot of screen prints. I've even seen some people manually document their old config in excel, but that would be a lot of work.
Thanks for the idea, probably the easiest way for now is to log in the cloned account on members.harmonyremote.com on another laptop, and going through the settings one by one
I played with it a few years ago, and as far as I could tell, all it does is load xml config files downloaded from members.harmonyremote.com into your remote like THIS . So I think that's a dead end. I never dug into it much, but you could open one of those files and see if you can make any sense of it. Just do an update from the website and look at the file that gets downloaded.
What I have thought of doing is using a web scraper to copy my config from the website to excel, but I never got very deep into that. While I still maintain a few harmonys for family and friends, I no longer use any myself and have gone back to JP1 mostly. So I probably won't go any farther with that effort on the harmony front unless they surprise me and come out with a major software update and a great new model.
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Originally Posted by mdavej /forum/post/20991052
I played with it a few years ago, and as far as I could tell, all it does is load xml config files downloaded from members.harmonyremote.com into your remote like THIS . So I think that's a dead end. I never dug into it much, but you could open one of those files and see if you can make any sense of it. Just do an update from the website and look at the file that gets downloaded.
What I have thought of doing is using a web scraper to copy my config from the website to excel, but I never got very deep into that. While I still maintain a few harmonys for family and friends, I no longer use any myself and have gone back to JP1 mostly. So I probably won't go any farther with that effort on the harmony front unless they surprise me and come out with a major software update and a great new model.
I would love to see you guys successfully hacked the AR XSight I was holding out for that remote, but gave up because it does not have power state tracking. All we need is JP1 remote with an LCD screen!
I amtrying to get my Harmony 700 working with my HT. I have a Motorola DCT-6200 set top box from my cable company. I have added the device to the Harmony software. When I try to set up the "Watch TV" activity, the software tells me I need to add a device that can change channels. It does not let me pick the cable box. Even if I walk through the wizard and add the device again, when I get to the end, it says "None of your devices can change channels".
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Originally Posted by David_Moen /forum/post/21014231
I amtrying to get my Harmony 700 working with my HT. I have a Motorola DCT-6200 set top box from my cable company. I have added the device to the Harmony software. When I try to set up the "Watch TV" activity, the software tells me I need to add a device that can change channels. It does not let me pick the cable box. Even if I walk through the wizard and add the device again, when I get to the end, it says "None of your devices can change channels".
When you added the STB, what type of device did you add the DCT-6200 as? It should be added as:
[Cable/Satellite Box] / [Digital Set Top Box]
What type of Activity did you create? You should MANUALLY create a new activity as:
[Watch Television] / [Watch TV (Digital Cable, Basic Cable, Antenna)]
After adding the device and activity as shown above to one of my 650s, the first question it asked in the Activity set-up wizard is which device changes channels, and the Moto was included in the list.
BTW... NEVER allow the software to add activities automatically... ALWAYS add new activities "manually". The wizard only asks a few simple questions that will actually help you understand what's going on behind the scenes. Automatically created activities never seem to work correctly and you will have gained no understanding of why they are not working.
This bug has been in the database for as long as I can remember. Logitech simply doesn't recognize that motorola boxes can change channels. OP didn't do anything wrong, but creating the activity manually as jcalabria says will fix the problem.
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