Originally Posted by mborner
I agree with you about Samsung's proprietary data "attitude", however, I must say, For consumers that don't absolutely have to use IP/RS232 control over your TV (I know I don't) Samsung makes one of the best displays on the market today.
This response frustrates me a bit. We are a small group trying to make using AV fundamentally better. I view it as solving the "Wife" problem where regardless of the universal remote technology, my wife just uses me as the remote because it is too complex.
Until we simply say "no" to companies that won't make their systems open to control, they will frustrate us. With digital signals, the difference between two similar systems is extremely small, and 18 months after you buy the "best" hardware, new hardware will be available that is better.
I propose the following basic guidelines for those of us who care about iRule and IP/Open control.
We are committed to open protocols, standards, codes, and connectivity. We consider the control features of our devices to be as integral as signal processing, amplification, or switching. We will always give priority in our purchase decision to devices according to these guidelines:
1. The device must have a 2-way connection protocol. IP/HTTP is best, IP/Telnet second, and RS232 third.
2. We will not buy any device with solely an IR port
3. Connection ports must be open, and addressable from any compatible device. No encryption or keys required for control functions
4. All codes available on the remote or on-screen menus have corresponding control codes
5. Binary switches (on/off, mute/unmute) will have discrete and toggle codes.
6. All codes are published to the general public
7. All connectors and ports follow standard protocols (e.g.: USB ports do not manipulate voltage or other signal to require proprietary cables or connectors)
We are hundreds of pages into this thread, and the vast majority of questions are around missing codes, strange IR behavior (delays), setup of iTach devices, and other details that should not, and cannot be a part of the setup of an AV system if iRule or a system like it is to achieve critical mass.
I am so grateful to Itai for what he has done, but I do fear that at $50 a pop, it will be hard to make a sustaining business unless more devices are easy to integrate without significant dedicated professional involvement or personal dedication.
Lets start with us, and stop compromising by saying "Samsung is a great TV" when it is not, so long as they won't publish codes.