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Anyone have any idea how this guy made his embedded sites show up ontop of the panel without a drawer. Like in the Nest page.
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Can't say for sure but a URL widget?

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Rant upcoming.

So the time has come where my Harmony remote appears to be dying and instead of putting together the code together for my own remote control app, since I don't currently have a lot of free time on my hands, I figured the signs were pointing to me shelling out the $50 or $100 for the iRule app (And possibly the extra $100 for one of the IR or RS232 network interfaces), which I assumed would be totally user-intuitive, easy-to-use, and otherwise totally worth $50 or $100. However, after trying out the iRule builder and app set up on my phone, I'm really damn curious what this $50 would be getting me.

I set up a handset and an activity. I set up my 3 associated devices on the app with their IP addresses in their respective gateways, yet when I go to that activity, nothing happens. It seems like there is a pretty damn steep learning curve to even setting up an activity much less customizing the whole thing. The builder and the app itself are not very intuitive and it seems like this would take an awful lot of trouble-shooting to get quite right. I mean, I added those devices and I don't even have a "device" button that pops up and shows me all the commands for that device. "TV-ON/OFF"... that right there would've let me know if it was actually controlling my TV or not! Instead I just had the one "watch movie" activity.

Anyhoo, I'm posting on here because I want to know if this is general consensus of most people that have tried iRule or am I just missing something obvious about what would make this a worthwhile purchase? I mean, it doesn't seem to me that this is a terribly difficult app/software idea here. I've got app remotes for 1) Plex hometheater, 2) my yamaha receiver, and 3) my samsung TV. Each app finds each respective device on the network and, BAM!, I go right into controlling it. Why am I having such a hard time finding an app that can find my A/V devices and do basic controls and macros AND be easy to set up? Seriously, am I completely missing something here? (Oh, and every other remote app I looked at on that sticky thread was not compatible with my device)

At any rate, I might continue tinkering with this but I just ordered a Harmony hub with remote for $100. I'll give that one a go. I can only assume it's about as easy to set-up as my older Harmony remote was.
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The learning curve is steep. No beating around the bush with that one. If you aren't willing to put several hours into just learning what iRule can do and more importantly how to do it then I would look elsewhere, however iRule is almost limitless on what you can achieve.

I have the harmony and use it in my living room and it will not take you more than 30 minutes to set up.

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IRule is pretty awful if you're looking for anything remotely intuitive. It takes a ton of time to setup. Nothing fancy in my setup, but I've now got pretty good control on my receiver via IP, projector via IP, BR player via IP, cable box, HTPC via IP, Aton DLA6

Would love to get mouse controls but I'll fight that battle another day.

I wish IRule would get their act together and focus on the builder
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Ohhhhhh goodie. This issue appears again after the latest iOS firmware update. Any chance it can be fixed in less than 3-4 months, unlike the last time? If it's going to be longer than a few months, I'll just load the old firmware on my iPad.


Or does anyone know of a quick fix besides the installing the old firmware?

First reported here. And then asked for a follow-up here.
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Ive just started messing with iRule this week. Got the advanced version and an itach flex to just play with IR devices, plan to add some serial devices. But first i was just trying to set up a new handset, a 6 plus. To start slow and ease into it, i just wanted to create a 2x3 grid of buttons taking up the whole screen. Created my buttons at 606x606 each, which should leave me ~200px at the top for a graphic. Added a left drawer for navigation items, hid the nav bar, added a few gestures to play with. All looks good in the builder preview. Sync with device. The buttons are all jumbled on top of each, none of the gestures work, left drawer doesnt pop out, nav bar still showing. Whats up with the builder/app and support? Really questioning if i should have gone this route, seems like the support is lacking. Im ok with the learning curve, but if simple layouts with no macros or device integration are causing me problems, how is this going to progress? Any suggestions?
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No real support except their forums and their tutorials, i highly suggest going through all of their videos and other written tutorials first before trying to build as it really isnt intuitive at first. Every single setting is there bit they all jave to. E set for each and every item you are manipulating.

http://www.iruleathome.com/support-c...utorial-videos

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Though I will add their forums are active with their development t team and they will assist

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So i figured out the drawer, defaults to 0.00%.

Still trying to understand image size recommendations, hating this trial and error with the sizes. All the tutorials and guides just talk about background, which is simple.

No dice on gestures yet, probably something simple.
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Have never played with gestures. I know the 6+ is new ( android user here) but did you search for samples in the builder they should be scaled correctly if they exist, I would try them first before importing your own. Also I highly doubt they updated them for the 6/6+ but they do have Photoshop files for all their buttons in the builder on their site

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IRule is pretty awful if you're looking for anything remotely intuitive. It takes a ton of time to setup. Nothing fancy in my setup, but I've now got pretty good control on my receiver via IP, projector via IP, BR player via IP, cable box, HTPC via IP, Aton DLA6

Would love to get mouse controls but I'll fight that battle another day.

I wish IRule would get their act together and focus on the builder
I think iRule works great, love it!

Light years ahead of that junk Logitech crap; I wont let that garbage company anywhere near my home. GARBAGE!
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I just went through their dealer training videos in 2 hours and took final test this morning; programming ipad to control their devices (in their office).

The "setup" does take some getting used to. When I attempted by trial and error I can see how one could become frustrated. Once you watch the tutorials, you get a sense on how it works.

Just like all programming remotes. It takes time to learn. I'm not certain I will be selling Universal remote products anymore. I am extremely well versed with RS232 and TCP/IP so on that front this is light years ahead. I don't need to sell a box that locks up. I can make changes to customers remote on the fly. No more usb cables, or control boxes freezing up. One could argue you have to buy ios/android device....yeah, but you don't need to buy BOTH a dedicated handheld remote AND tablet/phone. You can just use one device.

I do wish there were other programming elements but for now it's fully functional.
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If your not willing to take the time to learn then you should stick with what you know.
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I just went through their dealer training videos in 2 hours and took final test this morning; programming ipad to control their devices (in their office).

The "setup" does take some getting used to. When I attempted by trial and error I can see how one could become frustrated. Once you watch the tutorials, you get a sense on how it works.

Just like all programming remotes. It takes time to learn. I'm not certain I will be selling Universal remote products anymore. I am extremely well versed with RS232 and TCP/IP so on that front this is light years ahead. I don't need to sell a box that locks up. I can make changes to customers remote on the fly. No more usb cables, or control boxes freezing up. One could argue you have to buy ios/android device....yeah, but you don't need to buy BOTH a dedicated handheld remote AND tablet/phone. You can just use one device.

I do wish there were other programming elements but for now it's fully functional.
Jim, are those videos available on the net or on request - I don't mind going through the videos and trying out a trial version before making the move. Currently, I am using 3 remote control devices that come packaged with AV gear: a projector remote, processor remote and the blu ray player remote. The projector remote is used to turn the PJ on and off, the processor remote is used mainly for volume and source selection (music, movie, cable TV). The blu ray remote is used to pause, forward, rewind and resume movie playback. At this point I must mention that for movies, I do turn up the centre speaker up by +1dB just for that slightly improved speech intelligibility and turn it back down again when I switch to music listening (source: iPod). I am presuming that iRule would be an advantage here as such minor tweaks between various sources could be automated.

However, as my home theatre room is totally dark, I have over time managed to memorise or rather feel the keys to my remotes in total darkness. In other words, I do not have to look at the remote to establish what button to press. This is a huge advantage - does iRule provide such a benefit from an iPhone or iPad Mini ? - For example, the iDevice would not have to be switched-on or woken up. swiping up or down on the screen would effect volume, one tap would pause, two taps would stop, swiping left or right would rewind back or forward and repeating the same action in succession would increase the forward or rewind speed. Taping once again would resume play back. I think such a feature would make iRule just as effective as a remote control with rubber buttons.

All in all, if the video tutorials are available and a trial version of iRule can be obtained - I would not mind giving it a go. I don't have an iPad Mini but I suppose my iPhone 5s would suffice for a trial.

The other question I have is what other hardware would I need for IP or RS-232 control ?

Would I need to invest in a wireless router ?

Currently, I am using an IR extender as all my equipment is in a cupboard and out of sight.

Advice from experienced and knowledgeable iRule users will be appreciated.
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Jim, are those videos available on the net or on request - I don't mind going through the videos and trying out a trial version before making the move. Currently, I am using 3 remote control devices that come packaged with AV gear: a projector remote, processor remote and the blu ray player remote. The projector remote is used to turn the PJ on and off, the processor remote is used mainly for volume and source selection (music, movie, cable TV). The blu ray remote is used to pause, forward, rewind and resume movie playback. At this point I must mention that for movies, I do turn up the centre speaker up by +1dB just for that slightly improved speech intelligibility and turn it back down again when I switch to music listening (source: iPod). I am presuming that iRule would be an advantage here as such minor tweaks between various sources could be automated.

However, as my home theatre room is totally dark, I have over time managed to memorise or rather feel the keys to my remotes in total darkness. In other words, I do not have to look at the remote to establish what button to press. This is a huge advantage - does iRule provide such a benefit from an iPhone or iPad Mini ? - For example, the iDevice would not have to be switched-on or woken up. swiping up or down on the screen would effect volume, one tap would pause, two taps would stop, swiping left or right would rewind back or forward and repeating the same action in succession would increase the forward or rewind speed. Taping once again would resume play back. I think such a feature would make iRule just as effective as a remote control with rubber buttons.

All in all, if the video tutorials are available and a trial version of iRule can be obtained - I would not mind giving it a go. I don't have an iPad Mini but I suppose my iPhone 5s would suffice for a trial.

The other question I have is what other hardware would I need for IP or RS-232 control ?

Would I need to invest in a wireless router ?

Currently, I am using an IR extender as all my equipment is in a cupboard and out of sight.

Advice from experienced and knowledgeable iRule users will be appreciated.
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iRule does have gestures and motions capabilities. You will just have to configure gestures and motions to work for your setup. What's nice, is the fact that iRule is so customizable that you can configure things to meet your needs. Yes you will need a wireless router. For IP commands you will not need any thing more. For IR and RS232 you will need to buy one or more Global Cache devices. You can find links to the videos on there web site. You can also just search for them on YouTube. You also may want to post on the iRule forums as well.
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...just as effective as a remote control with rubber buttons.
Nothing truly replaces hard buttons for 'blind use'. I still keep RF remotes in use for the kind of fast-forwarding, volume or other kinds of lazy uses. Tablets and the like are best suited for spouse/child/guest-friendly use. But for couch potato living you really can't beat using a hard button remote and muscle memory...
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