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I have a Sanyo Z2 and 92" DaLite screen that I would like to connect to my Xbox. The problem is that the equipment rack (AV recvr, HD box, DVD player, etc.) is in a closet far from the viewing area. I would like to put the Xbox back in the rack so I can take advantage of my sound system, but don't know what I will do for controllers.

I have a IR setup that can control all the components and I have thought about using wireless for the XBox controllers. That said, I think a wired connection would be better given that you have to point the remote at the IR eye or it really does not work that well.

How long of a run can Xbox controllers support? Do you know of anyone that sells ~30 ft extensions? Do you think wireless would work with an IR repeater and diode?

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Just use a wireless controller. You don't have to point the controller at anything. it uses frequecy, not IR.
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logitech makes a good wireless controller.


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Thanks a ton....RF should work great.....I will check out Logitech...As always you guys have all the answers :)
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XBox controllers are USB devices. As such, they have a max corded range of approx 25 feet. You can also make extensions yourself (google it) or buy some extension cords, I think they are 8 footers and cost about 10 bucks a piece.

Or just go wireless.
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The Logitechs using RF should work nicely and are a quality solution.

One thing, if you play Xbox Live there is no headset port on the controller, it is on the controller's receiver corded to the Xbox (this is common to just about every wireless controller out there not a logi quirk). Some Xbox specific wireless headset options are coming available and some might already be out there. A few people have used a non-xbox specific one from Jabra (non-bluetooth model). You can pick one up from Ebay as retail prices can be quite a bit higher.

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Well if the headset IS an issue a new controller comes out next month:
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/244651.asp
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I would like to use my XBOX on the first floor of my house and have the XBOX unit upstairs in my media room. Will the wireless work for this application? I have a 1800sqft house with audio and video in 7 zones, it would be nice to be able to use the XBOX from any of my rooms.
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I don't know the range for the RF in the unit - I don't know if anyone has actually tried to measure it since they are usually local to the console or within close proximity. You might have to try it out. It's going to depend on distance and what is in between as the main factors.

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How is the response of the RF controllers? Do they lag, like wireless mice does on PC's? Or every bit as good as corded controllers?
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Great question....I am very concerned about the delay factor as well as interference with cordless phone and more importantly our D-Link wireless router (2.4GHz). My understanding is that the Logitech controllers operate at the same frequency.

Is anyone using the Logitech controllers in a room that also occupies a D-Link wireless router? Do you think it would be a problem? I would have the XBox connected directly to the router, but we do use the DLINK to connect to the web from our laptops throughout the house.
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What frequency does the 802.11g transmit at?

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I have no complaints and I honestly have never heard anyone complain of lag on the Logi Xbox unit. More than a few are in service on this forum alone.

I have a 'b' wireless router and a multistation 2.4ghz telephone system. Never had an issue (thank God).

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there is a NEW Logitech (2.4ghz) out now ($39@walmart)

-from cnet review:
this is arguably the best wireless Xbox controller on the market. Its 2.4GHz wireless technology gives it tremendous range, letting the signal penetrate nearly any intervening object. The Cordless Precision's response times are so fast that it's virtually indistinguishable from a wired controller during play.

I use a Pelican wireless and love it, but might have to get another one... : )
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What frequency does the 802.11g transmit at?
802.11b and 802.11g are 2.4GHz
802.11a is 5GHz
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If cost wasn't an issue, would you go with

Logitech wireless controller
Logitech wireless headset

or wait for

Hip Gear's Bluetooth controller and headset combo

I know logitech makes great products, but wouldn't bluetooth solve a lot of the possible interfernce issues?
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logitech's. i have the controller right now, and it is top notch.

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I would think the Logitech would be better if you want to get further from the console. IIRC, bluetooth has a max range of 30' but usually you won't get even that far before it starts cutting out. I'm not sure what range Logictech claims, but since it's the same freq. as 802.11b/g and some coreless phones, I'm pretty sure you will get much better range - possibly even through walls/floors if required.
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I know logitech makes great products, but wouldn't bluetooth solve a lot of the possible interfernce issues?
I have just about every possible interfereing device one could throw into the mix (see my post above) and the Logitech has never once glitched. In theory I understand what you are saying and I was certainly leary of the issue, but in my experience this has never come up and I have also never once seen another post about anyone having interference problems. I don't know anything about Hip Gear products but I don't see any reason not to at least try the Logitech and see if it's an issue for you.

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I have the new version of the wireless Logitech and I can go a good 50' to 60' away and into other rooms before I get any signal loss ;) [ seems to work through several walls being in the way :) ] .

--- There is ZERO lag with these controllers and I have become so used to the Logitech that I now play better with it vs. the M$ S-controller .

--- As mentioned above they can be purchased from Wal-Mart for $39.95 each , can also be found at Target for $39.95 each [ most every other place I checked sells them at $49.95 ] .

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I own 2 Logitech wireless controllers (and the headset), and while the headset is great. The controller does piss me off sometimes. It loves to lose its connection in the middle of a Halo 2 Xbox live match, which sucks (especially when you are playing CTF and you have the flag 10 feet from your base and it does it). It doesnt happen every time i play, but when it does happen, it seems to do it VERY often.
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BTW, i have two of them and they both do it, and they are both the newest version. On the other had my Nintendo Wavebird works flawlessly with my gamecube. Too bad the only game i play on GC is Metroid Prime 2.
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Well, this is the first report of connection or interference issues. Buy local so you can return I guess. Not sure what you have running through your house but something isn't right (I have a 2.4ghz wireless network and 4 2.4ghz phones all within easy range of the Logitechs and no issues, not once - which is kind of surprising but in a pleasant way).

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I just bought a the new logitech wireless controller from target this past weekend. I haven't even taken it out of the box yet but wanted to compare it since I've heard lots of good reviews on it and it is closer to the MS "S" controller with the new design. Till now, I bought 4 cable extensions from eBay and were fairly happy with them. Once in a while, the connection would get a little loose after throwing the controllers around and i would have to re-plug in the controllers to the extension. But for the most part, the extensions works great!

BTW: The new logitech controller was on sale last weekend for $32 at Target. YMMV
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Well, this is the first report of connection or interference issues. Buy local so you can return I guess. Not sure what you have running through your house but something isn't right (I have a 2.4ghz wireless network and 4 2.4ghz phones all within easy range of the Logitechs and no issues, not once - which is kind of surprising but in a pleasant way).
Yea, i've got a 2.4 Cordless phone and 2.4 wireless router. Also, it could have something to do with me being in Hollywood where there is potential for quite a bit of interference. As far as the controller layout... I love it. I dont like using the Controller S any more.

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one thing with the wireless controllers you need to be aware of is low battery power. the batteries that came with my controllers were all low, so right out of the box i was having connectivity issues, cutouts, and every once in a while the controller would glitch and just make me throw a grenade without me doing anything. i thought the batteries were brand new. i then changed them out with some brand new batteries, never had one problem since. if the light on the controller is blinking at all, change the batteries.

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I've tested every wireless they had at best buy which was about 6 different kinds of wireless controllers

IMO the datel ones were the best. When I mean best I mean most felt and played like the s-controllers.

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So Santa brought me 2 Logitech wireless controllers and they seem to work great! I have a 2.5Ghz wireless phone & a 2.4 wireless router in the same room and so far there has been no interference.

Now all I need to get is re-chargeable batteries :)....

Thanks for all of the advice. I will let you know if I encounter any problems.
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