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i'm getting one of the new slim ps2's for christmas and i was wondering how it looked through component cables. i know it won't match what the xbox is throwing out, but there are so many games on ps2 that i want. the games i know i'm getting are: metal gear solid 3, ace combat 5, gta:sa, katamari damacy, killzone, and one more i can't think of the name. how do those games look on it? thanks.
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They look all right. Your problem will be delay on games that don't support progressive scan; search the Rear Projection forum for "Samsung 5063W and PS2 input delay"

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I've got the hlp5063w and a XBOX. If the source is interlaced, the a/v delay is anywhere from 50-100 ms. It's unplayable for any twitch games. I would definitely make sure to only play games that output progressive scan.
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are there alot of games on ps2 that support progressive scan?
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i'm also gonna get the eyetoy for the ps2. will there be any delay using that? and by timing sensitive games, what do you all mean? i thought the delay was supposed to be fixed from the hln's...
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It is, but you'd hardly notice a ~200ms delay in a turn-based RPG. The delay is always there. Your noticing it is not. What you see on the TV has already "happened" in the console so that'll affect anything you play. It's only noticeable (and impactful) on games where split-second timing is needed.

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Is the delay with interlaced source a problem with Samsung sets or all projection TVs, even projectors?

There are some fighting games where certain commands have a one-frame window for execution, ie. 16ms. However if you don't need to watch the video for timing then it wouldn't matter as much.
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It's really neither. It's not only Samsung sets, but it's not all sets either. You'd have to experiment in the stores, but I've never heard of a delay problem with a front projector. Or a CRT-based HDTV.

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I think the Samsung DLP sets are bigger offenders than other brands of DLPs. It shouldn't be noticable unless you are playing a PS2 game with a meter (Hot Shots Golf), or the timing has to be just right. If you play older consoles, it may present problems as well. It's the 480i de-interlacing in the Sammy DLPs that presents the problem. I've never noticed it on my Sammy HLN, but then again, I don't play as much PS2 as I do Xbox, and I don't play PS2 games with meters that require timing.
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