That whole head, body finding it thing was so stupid. How did the body get there? How could it walk not seeing where it is going. Blind people at least use a cane/seeing eye animal. So the terminator used these techniques to make its way to the head? How did it dress itself properly (being the first time without a head). How did it find someone with the right clothes size, etc. etc. Just to far fetched, even for a show about robots from the future
Well, my take on the cancer subplot is that they flubbed it from T3 (yes, I realize they are mostly ignoring the events of that movie). In T3, she is stated to have died in 1997 after three years of battling cancer, and shortly after the original Judgement Day was supposed to have occured. But obviously, in this show, she was alive and well, the fact that she has cancer unknown to her in 1999.
Of course, here I go again with the plot inconsistencies. If in T3, she has been battling cancer for 3 years, she should have found out roughly sometime before the events of T2 took place (1995). But she was in Pescadero, and no mention was ever made to cancer. Irregardless, the T:SCC Sarah doesn't even know she has cancer.
Oh, and in the voiceover last night at the begining of the episode, how long did she say she was in Pescadero? I recall she said 9 years, but I don't have this episode recorded so I can't say for sure. Maybe someone could help me out with that. If she did say 9 years, how did she have time to train 10 year old John Connor and teach him about his future and his dad? When did he have the chance to meet Enrique? Unless he's an extremely perceptive one year old!
Figure that sequence to be a plot device for a future episode. Her medical records will be entered into a database which another terminator will somehow access to find them.
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Figure that sequence to be a plot device for a future episode. Her medical records will be entered into a database which another terminator will somehow access to find them.
Not to mention John's little trip to the mall and his old home. Many twists on the way. But it seems like they are telegraphing them. Is that so even Mr Joe Average can think he's on CSI?
I'm trying to remember the first movie. Isn't it because the metal machine is wrapped in a human/synthetic skin? If that's true, can't they wrap that skin around all the futuristic laser guns and send em back that way?
Or put that cash that the other poster talks about in a skin suitcase?
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Not to mention John's little trip to the mall and his old home. Many twists on the way. But it seems like they are telegraphing them. Is that so even Mr Joe Average can think he's on CSI?
Probably. Since in Hollywood every single computer in the world is connected and easily accessible, John's Google search of himself will register a hit and a terminator will find him that way as well, even though the search could have been conducted by someone else.
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I'm trying to remember the first movie. Isn't it because the metal machine is wrapped in a human/synthetic skin? If that's true, can't they wrap that skin around all the futuristic laser guns and send em back that way?
Or put that cash that the other poster talks about in a skin suitcase?
If it has to be logical, how about this? Send back a T-1000 to work in a lab and help us to produce their computer chips faster. No need to bump off John because, they know what he's going to do and when. Just be ready for it. Or, instead of using nukes to blow us up, why not chemical warfare? That wouldn't hurt them at all. Wipe us all out in a few months with a little poison in the water supplies. Not much of a show there though.
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That whole head, body finding it thing was so stupid. How did the body get there? How could it walk not seeing where it is going. Blind people at least use a cane/seeing eye animal. So the terminator used these techniques to make its way to the head? How did it dress itself properly (being the first time without a head). How did it find someone with the right clothes size, etc. etc. Just to far fetched, even for a show about robots from the future
I got the impression the body parts all came through the time portal with the head. They were collected by some other person in the garbage crew and thrown into the trash. I thought the scene where you could see the hand going through the compactor sort of explained that. I don't think the rest of the body parts would just be floating around 8 years later. They'd be in a landfill somewhere far away buriend under 8 years of trash. Maybe I'm just looking too much into it. That still doesn't account for the robotic elements coming through, unless the skin was burnt off somehow after the pieces came through. Or, those rules no longer apply (i.e. more advanced time travel machines).
As with "Heroes," this thread needs a dose of "check-your-realism-meter-at-the-door." This is purely fantastic sci-fi, not intended to be realistic. As long as they try to be true to themselves, and provide an entertaining story, we need to give 'em a break about the lack of realism.
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I think some kudos is in order for addressing the Sarah Conner's cancer storyline. It doesn't have to be a major piece (I'd prefer it not to be), but the way they mentioned it as a mere footnote in T3 was just wrong. It does add an interesting twist to know ahead of time how you are going to die (standing in her shoes), and that you have somehow escaped your "original" death by jumping into the future, past the date of the original death. She could still die, of course, but now there can be some uncertainty to it because of this alternate 2007 timeline.
Enough complaining about the loose head, already. We saw it pass through the portal in flames, therefore it had just enough still-living cells around it to make the transition. We also know from T2 about the backup battery in the head, and the double nuclear power cells in the T101 body (25 year capacity) were discussed in T3.
So the head passed through the portal and the T101 "Duralloy armored combat chassis, very tough" (quoting Kyle Reese in T1) went though a compactor relatively unharmed and into a scrap pile where it sat for 8 years, because it was exotic alloys not easily broken up, short of a vat of liquid steel.
Then in 2007 the head connected to the still powered body via the exotic technology of a digital wireless phone network, and the body was remote-controlled via the network until the two pieces got back together.
Clearly, the timeline is already pretty effed when you got teenybopper chick terminators running around saving people, eh?
(additionally, entire human resistance fighter troupes, automatic time machines- a new meaning to "ATM"- in bank vaults, and myraid generations of terminators walking around in the past)
Might as well go for broke!
I'm guessing the USS Voyager will pop out of hyperspace on 2007 Earth around mid-season. Mark my words!
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Clearly, the timeline is already pretty effed when you got teenybopper chick terminators running around saving people, eh?
(additionally, entire human resistance fighter troupes, automatic time machines- a new meaning to "ATM"- in bank vaults, and myraid generations of terminators walking around in the past)
Might as well go for broke!
I'm guessing the USS Voyager will pop out of hyperspace on 2007 Earth around mid-season. Mark my words!
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Enough complaining about the loose head, already. We saw it pass through the portal in flames, therefore it had just enough still-living cells around it to make the transition. We also know from T2 about the backup battery in the head, and the double nuclear power cells in the T101 body (25 year capacity) were discussed in T3.
So the head passed through the portal and the T101 "Duralloy armored combat chassis, very tough" (quoting Kyle Reese in T1) went though a compactor relatively unharmed and into a scrap pile where it sat for 8 years, because it was exotic alloys not easily broken up, short of a vat of liquid steel.
Then in 2007 the head connected to the still powered body via the exotic technology of a digital wireless phone network, and the body was remote-controlled via the network until the two pieces got back together.
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Enough complaining about the loose head, already. We saw it pass through the portal in flames, therefore it had just enough still-living cells around it to make the transition.
Terminator 2 already f'ed up this piece of continuity enough when it sent the liquid metal T1000 through the time portal without any covering of flesh.
Best answer: In between the "future" depicted in T1 and the future depicted in T2, the machines developed new metal alloys that can be transported through the time portal without human flesh. However, the portal still has a limitation on being able to send chemicals or complex moving parts, so they can't bring weapons with them (*). Clothing is also still out.
*This doesn't at all explain how the T-X in Terminator 3 could have a flamethrower in her arm.
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So the head passed through the portal and the T101 "Duralloy armored combat chassis, very tough" (quoting Kyle Reese in T1) went though a compactor relatively unharmed and into a scrap pile where it sat for 8 years, because it was exotic alloys not easily broken up, short of a vat of liquid steel.
Except for in the original Terminator, when the T-800 was killed by a hydraulic press in the end.
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Terminator 2 already f'ed up this piece of continuity enough when it sent the liquid metal T1000 through the time portal without any covering of flesh.
Ahh, but they could have sent the T-1000 through the time portal with a temporary coat of human skin, and he sheds it when he arrives. Not that they showed it on camera or explained it or anything, but hey it could happen.
...well, you won't be any safer in Mexico. Arnie was learning Spanish in T2 after all.
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