Okay, here's everything, Read On I hope you have spare time, lol
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Originally Posted by kjgarrison /forum/post/14126116
Hmmm, so the only thing you adjust in SM is gamma and grayscale? Your near perfect primary colors are not related to any settings in SM?
Yup, the only thing you adjust in the SM is the grayscale and gamma/contrast/brightness, the primary colors are all adjusted with the user menu.
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Originally Posted by kjgarrison /forum/post/14126116
I peeked in SM today for the first time, and it is scary there. First thing I did was to look at Options. Reset was highlighted and I wanted to go back to the main menu, so I hit "left", and I reset all my settings!
In the SM, Left and Right are essentially the same as hitting Enter, especially Right. Only Up and Down are the navigation buttons. If you want to go back, you have to hit the "return" button on the remote.
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Originally Posted by kjgarrison /forum/post/14126116
There is a section called "Expert (something)" I forget what the 'something' is, but it has to do with adjustments or calibration. Have you gone there?
This was worded improperly I guess by samsung. All of the Expert Settings, are not really Expert settings at all. The Expert settings are actually the User Level settings. So you can change the User Level settings in the SM. The reason you want to change those in the SM instead of the User Menu, is because whenever you go into the SM for any reason, your User Level settings will not reset to default every time.
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Originally Posted by kjgarrison /forum/post/14126116
I even have the Service Manual, and it isn't all that helpful for what I want to do. Oh, if I have a device to input certain patterns, it tells me what device to use, what patterns to input, and basically how to set everything from contrast to color. Maybe I need to see what one of these 'devices' is all about.
This is specifically the "don't touch" part. What they are talking about, are calibration patterns that need to be displayed at a certain time and the TV will automatically adjust to those patterns. This is something that is only done at the factory when the TV is setup for the very first time. If you hit enter in this part, the TV will automatically start looking for certain patterns to be displayed, and if they're not, the entire TV configuration will go out of whack.
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Originally Posted by kjgarrison /forum/post/14126116
Would you please tell me exactly what you adjust in the SM? Exactly, please.
On to the hardcore stuff, put your gloves on.
Hit the "Mute-1-8-2-Power" and go into the Service Menu.
Before you make any adjustments, you need to make sure the HDMI Black level is set correctly. Since it's a User Level setting, whenever you go into the SM, it will reset to Normal, so you have to go in every time and make sure to set it to Low. You'll notice the difference in dullness of the PQ immediately. So here's how.
You need to go into the "Options" menu, and at the top right, there's an option called Expert Settings. You need to turn that "On", otherwise the Expert Settings will be grayed out and you won't be able to do anything. Now remember, the "Expert Settings" are simply the exact User Level settings you have, so don't let the "Expert" throw you off. You'll see what I mean once you go through it.
Once you do that. Go to the "Expert Others" menu, and you'll see the HDMI Black Level setting there. So just switch it to where you see the picture get better. Don't pay attention to whether it says Normal, or Low, there's a glitch which sometimes it reads the opposite of what it's actually set to. So pay attention to the screen and not what it says. I'm sure you know what the correct setting for HDMI Black Level is supposed to look like. So once you set that correctly then go back to the main menu.
Now, there's 2 main sub-menus you can use, "White Balance", and "WB Movie". But in actuality, the only one you really need, is "WB Movie". White Balance is the general white balance for the tv, which are applied to every tv mode you have. Which really isn't necessary, because not all modes use the same White Balance anyway. So don't bother with that.
The main sub-menu you're going to use is "WB Movie". Go in the there, and turn that on, and put the Mode on "Movie". If you put the Mode to "Calibration" it will lock out the regular user level menu and you won't be able to change anything from the regular user menu. So put the Mode in "Movie". Then you can change the Color Tone to whatever you want. I set mine at Warm-1. Now from here, You'll see the following stuff:
Sub_Bright & Sub_Contrast
Gains and Offsets for each different Mode you select
And the User Level Menu settings at the end.
3 points
1. Grayscale will only have Red and Blue adjustments, i'm sure you know why, but just in case, Green isn't touched when you're adjusting the grayscale anyways, so there's no need to have it.
2. You can adjust either of the two Contrast and Brightness settings. Even simultaneously if you want, the Sub_ settings allow more fine tuning.
3. Movie Gamma is not the User level Gamma. It is the SM Gamma. The User Level Gamma is in the "expert settings".
So that's where you're going to do all the calibration adjustments "except the color space".
Now, after you've done the calibrations there, you do the following:
You need to go through, and change all the settings in the Expert Menus to match what you changed in the WB Movie menu. There are 2 exceptions that you don't need to match though
1. Grayscale: The Expert Settings don't have the same grayscale. "The Expert Grayscale, aka User Level Grayscale, you "Do Not" touch, you leave those at the default 25 for everything"
2. Gamma: Kind of like grayscale, they don't have the same Gamma parameters, but you can change it to whatever you want, so you don't have to match them.
Now you can go ahead and start adjusting the color space. You can do 2 things.
1. Calibrate the color space in the regular user menu. However If you do it this way, whenever you want to go back into the SM, the color space settings will reset back to default.
2. Calibrate the color space in the SM. This way, the color space will not reset to default and will always be saved.
You can do #1, so I'll just show you how to do #2.
So after you matched the User Level Settings, then you go into the "Expert Color Space" and do the color space calibration there.
Then when you're done, do the following, which is gonna sound weird, lol. Go back into the WB Movie menu, and change any setting you want, and then put it back to where it was before. I know the reason for it, but I don't know how to explain it well, lol. Hopefully you'll find out why when you're doing your stuff in there. If not just let me know and i'll try to explain it.
Now you're almost done, Last thing you need to, is copy all the settings to every source you have. This is very easy, just hit the "source" button once on your remote, and it will automatically change. Then just go through each of them copying the settings. Remember about the HDMI Black Level, and at the end to do the weird thing I metioned, for every source!
2 points
1. Whatever source you have hooked up, make sure you turn it on and play something in the mean time.
2. I don't remember if this has to be done, but just in case. Check that you also don't have to copy the settings between a 720/1080 source. So for your cable or stb box, switch the channel to something in 720 and then 1080 to make sure everything matches.
That's all, you're done, now just turn the TV off, and turn it back on. Go through the menus, go through all your sources. Make sure everything is where it's supposed to be. AND ENJOY!!