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SHARP LED-LCD, Anticipation Thread!

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#1 ·
Ok, after the AVS crash the new Sharp-LED-Thread...


The Sharp will presented at the IFA 08 in Berlin. Sharp IFA press conference is on 28.08.08;


Links;



http://www.heimkinomarkt.de/News_Ein...p?news_ID=5792


The basis is the IFA 07 prototype;

http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/s...-inches-thick/
http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/31/h...cd-prototypes/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkDTY..._video_of.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfn0cClGVos&NR=1


Coming soon 2008 and not 2010!

http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english...080111/145233/

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"20mm, 1/2 Power Use, 100,000:1 Contrast Ratio LCD TV Will Debut in 2008," Sharp Says

(in German)
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=E8RTP9k7Dv0
 
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#28 ·

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Originally Posted by diabolyte /forum/post/14546519


hot dang. this sharp looks er....sharp?
if the off angle viewing is as good as it looks in the pic then they've got a good one. wonder how much it'll cost for the 52" and how it'll stack up against the xbr8 and the XV1-the world's slimmest LCD with LED BL.


What is the XV1?
 
#36 ·

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Originally Posted by vtms /forum/post/14554458


This should remove any remaining doubt.


I wonder what the "bit depth expansion" entails?


Plugging the least significant bits with zeros?

Some kind of dynamic greyscale?

12 bit panel drivers?

Marketing gimmick?


Would be nice if it was something meaningful to picture quality and not just some fake-looking video processing mode that should be turned off.
 
#38 ·

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Originally Posted by Carled /forum/post/14555582


I wonder what the "bit depth expansion" entails?


Plugging the least significant bits with zeros?

Some kind of dynamic greyscale?

12 bit panel drivers?

Marketing gimmick?

It could be some sort of dithering to 12-bit effective range with 10-bit drivers, or maybe it could be 12-bit drivers. Or, it could be all hot air. We won't know until they start shipping and people get them in hand.
 
#39 ·
Okay, so now there are a bunch of LED-based TVs coming from numerous manufacturers. Sharp has some interesting goodies:


1. 65 inch!! (Yes!)

2. Thin bezel

3. RBG-LED (Same as Sony)


Interestingly, the press release seems to tout the local-dimming as a form of

power efficiency feature instead of black-level improvement.



Ah well, I just hope Sharp is able to re-establish themselves as a leader in LCD

technology. Seems Sony/Samsung have roared past them in recent years. Seems

like Sharp has become another Matrox.
 
#40 ·

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Originally Posted by Nambit /forum/post/14558572


Interestingly, the press release seems to tout the local-dimming as a form of

power efficiency feature instead of black-level improvement.



Ah well, I just hope Sharp is able to re-establish themselves as a leader in LCD

technology. Seems Sony/Samsung have roared past them in recent years. Seems

like Sharp has become another Matrox.

They are referring to total backlight control not local dimming. They are touting a function which is similar to what they do with the current Aquos lines, with the backlight dimming according to the ambient light levels. If the room is bright the backlight is full on, if the room is dark you don't need to punch the picture through the ambient light, so the backlight dims.
 
#42 ·

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Originally Posted by Nambit /forum/post/14558572


1. 65 inch!! (Yes!)

It would be awesome if this was priced vagely reasonably (55" is just barely enough for me), but I fear they might have a drink of the silly juice before they set pricing.

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Interestingly, the press release seems to tout the local-dimming as a form of

power efficiency feature instead of black-level improvement.

There's going to be bugs in their first commercial implementation of it, so touting it as a purely picture quality improving feature is probably something they've made a corperate decision not to do. How well their LEDs are done compared to Samsung/Sony/LG/Philips remains to be seen.

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Seems Sony/Samsung have roared past them in recent years. Seems

like Sharp has become another Matrox.

Nice analogy.
 
#45 ·

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Originally Posted by diabolyte /forum/post/14560247


probably not since it's so thin like the 9.9mm sony XV1 which uses LED BL illuminated from the side.

If it is actually edge lit, then it's highly unlikely to have area based dimming. It'd be a shame if it was, there's a significant performance hit compared to rear lit lighting.
 
#47 ·

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Originally Posted by Kedas /forum/post/14560869

http://www.xs-aquos.com/

According to the countdown it is still 2 months before worldwide release.

5147110/60/60/24=59.5 day's or 31 October.

The countdown is saying ~102,700 seconds for me. That's 1.2 days, ie. the start of CEDIA.



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RGB LED means 50% more colors over white led, I wonder if you can really see that?

Considering BT.709 only covers about 40% of the visible spectrum, sure. However, if you plan on calibrating the set to the HDTV standards and not just cranking things up as far as they'll go then the extra gamut is not necessary whatsoever. Once we start getting some xvYCC material that will change, but that may be several years away.
 
#51 ·
I'm getting Oct 08 also. It's great that the LED LCD story doesn't end this year with XBR8 and there's still XS to look forward to later on. BUT, regardless of the specs Sharp is giving, it seems quite obvious this is not the stunning display that was shown at last year's IFA. Just compare the pictures and videos of the two. The prototype had almost OLED-like contrast from any angle while you can barely see what's on the XS' screen in the pictures taken from the side. XS looks like a regular LCD on every picture. Perhaps Sharp wants to dole out whatever improvements they've made in stages and it will be several years before they bring to market all of the prototype tech. Recall that the prototype was scheduled for release sometime in 2010.
 
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