Although we should all respect each other, I think it is very productive to have some people challenge the opinions of others like in this post. It brings some validation to the topic or product as well as alternative ideas.
Otherwise we are reduced to a bunch of cheerleaders whose input is highly suspect. I guess knowing when enough is enough is the problem.
It is challenging to find significant input in the under $300 sub topic. The products are constantly changing making even three month old posts of moderate if any value. This is one of the longest I have seen and I am glad to get the input. Most of the others get dragged into a $400+ or nothing post.
i got mine from beach about 3 months ago --- at that time they too were backordered, but it only took about 4 days for more stock to come in. I would just keep checking back at their website if you haven't found another source yet.
Just ordered the F12 through Beach. Unfortunately they think their backorder is 2 weeks at this point, but fortunately they are in California so it should only be a couple of days shipping time to reach me. I'm excited to get it.
Has anyone compared the F12 to Premier Acoustic PA-120? Are they pretty close in terms of performance/sound quality? Would one be more suitable for music than the other?
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Has anyone compared the F12 to Premier Acoustic PA-120? Are they pretty close in terms of performance/sound quality? Would one be more suitable for music than the other?
I'd go with the Pa-120 I have the F-12 I would only choose the Pa 120 for the cabinet. Otherwise they are equal exept for the warranty. 5 years vs. 3 years. It's up to you. I bought the F-12 but kind of wish I'd have bought the Pa it would have matched the rest of my speakers. Thats it. I really like the f-12, but i think they are basically the same for the price range. The only reason I bought the f 12 was for price $50.00 bucks less and comparible.
has anyone opened up the f-12 and looked at the fill ? I'm guessing there would be room to add more polyfill if desired. Here is my situation - you guys let me know what you think.
I have the sub placed in the best place for both form and function as I can get it. It is a bit boomy (95% HT use) at the location -- along a side wall and about 18" from the corner -- BUT, if I place blankets behind the sub essentially covering up the port it sounds just the way I would like it to sound.
So would adding polyfill produce the same sound but without having to place the blannkets behind it. I can't really do that acoustic foam treatments behind the sub either because the space behind the sub is actually a door and WAF would void that idea.
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has anyone opened up the f-12 and looked at the fill ? I'm guessing there would be room to add more polyfill if desired. Here is my situation - you guys let me know what you think.
I have the sub placed in the best place for both form and function as I can get it. It is a bit boomy (95% HT use) at the location -- along a side wall and about 18" from the corner -- BUT, if I place blankets behind the sub essentially covering up the port it sounds just the way I would like it to sound.
So would adding polyfill produce the same sound but without having to place the blannkets behind it. I can't really do that acoustic foam treatments behind the sub either because the space behind the sub is actually a door and WAF would void that idea.
that's the plan --- I just wanted to make sure I wasn't gonna get a "be careful when you open it up because......." type of problem. I'll post back when I get a chance to fill the cabinet with some polyfill.
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that's the plan --- I just wanted to make sure I wasn't gonna get a "be careful when you open it up because......." type of problem. I'll post back when I get a chance to fill the cabinet with some polyfill.
Yes you should be careful. Years ago my buddy was taking his woofers out, undoing the screws and he slipped, screwdriver went right through the woofer, ruined it, bigass top of the line Cerwin Vega's. Poor guy cried right there, then he freaked out and threw a few things.
I'd like to know your results, I don't think there is much filling in the F12 if any and I too thought it might help. Let us know.
Stoked to get mine in, even though Provantage says it's going to be another 3 weeks : (
I decided to pair this with my YSP-4000 after reading all the rave reviews on this site over this and the H100.. Admittedly I don't know much about audio setup, what would be the best way to hook this sub up to my YSP-4000, wire wise?
My old school 5.1 system (which I'm going to use for target practice) is all ran by speaker wire and I'm not sure what the best/most current way to hook this thing up would be to the YSP.
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Stoked to get mine in, even though Provantage says it's going to be another 3 weeks : (
I decided to pair this with my YSP-4000 after reading all the rave reviews on this site over this and the H100.. Admittedly I don't know much about audio setup, what would be the best way to hook this sub up to my YSP-4000, wire wise?
My old school 5.1 system (which I'm going to use for target practice) is all ran by speaker wire and I'm not sure what the best/most current way to hook this thing up would be to the YSP.
Not sure if I'm following you yet --- The YSP is a "sound bar" correct? Is it a receiver as well? If the YSP is indeed the "receiver" as well, does it have a jack named "sub out" or "sub pre", etc? It would look like a single RCA style jack. If so them you would run a coax style cable from the sub out to the F-12 sub in jack. If this is the case then just do a "search this thread" and enter monoprice for and example of the type of cable you will want to use.
***edit -- i looked up the YSP -- yes it has a sub out jack -- refer to page 29 of your owners manual -- you will need to tell the YSP that you hooked up a sub to it......***
Is anyone interested in a new unopen box "BIC America F12 Sub "? I may have one for sale very soon as I might have one too many. I have perfect rating on both ebay & audiogon.com.
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Is anyone interested in a new unopen box "BIC America F12 Sub "? I may have one for sale very soon as I might have one too many. I have perfect rating on both ebay & audiogon.com.
Since it doesn't have a dedicated sub output, and I have to hook it up with speaker wire (receiver -> sub -> left/right loudspeakers) , what should I set the crossover knob to?
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Since it doesn't have a dedicated sub output, and I have to hook it up with speaker wire (receiver -> sub -> left/right loudspeakers) , what should I set the crossover knob to?
That depends on your main speakers' frequency response. Regardless, I would probably start at around 80 Hz and then do some listening to determine if lowering or increasing it slightly from there sounds better to your ears.
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