It appears a moderator changed the title to include the Sony projector although I'm not sure how the Nvidia issue pertains to the Sony projector, I don't want anyone being misled by the title. I have asked one of the moderators why it was changed and to please fix it.
Several others have had varied success with the latest drivers, it looks like there is some progress being made. I installed a clean Win7 64bit setup and TMT5 and PDVD10 are working just the same as in the 32bit setup. I can get either app to change frequency from 60hz to 24 -> 24(FP) and back to 60hz. This is with the HDMI->VIDEO and DVI->AVR.
Another member had a positive experience with the Nvidia 450 card.
Please continue to post your experience / issues with your current setup and be sure to provide as much detail about the setup as possible. thanks!
Edit: 1/4/2011
With the same gainward drivers, I also have PowerDVD10 (2113) workiing with 3D bluray and HD audio with no issues, I ran through 1/2 dozen or so 3D BD's and all played smooth in TMT5 and PDVD10.
This setup is with split video / audio
(Video HDMI -> projector)
(Audio DVI-HDMI -> Pioneer SC-07 1.3 AVR)
I understand at least 1 member is having an issue with the new drivers going through a 1.4 AVR. If anyone else has success with split mode and the new drivers, please post your experience.
I still have the Nvidia Dongle attached at this point even though I am using the JVC RS40 emitter / Xpand 103 glasses for 3D viewing. I will try to remove this as requested by a number of members to see if it's still working.
Video modes will switch from 1080p 60hz ->24hz -> 24 (FP) JVC 3D bluray frame packed mode and then back to 60hz if necessary.
edit: 1/3/2011
Gainward has posted a new driver that allowed me to sync the RS40 with the Nvidia GT430 Card. I am currently testing, but have it running in 60hz, 24 hz and 24 hz (FP) for 3D mode with HD audio. This is with splitting the Video over HDMI and audio over DVI to the 1.3 AVR.
** The JVC RS40/50/60 has an issue with all Nvidia graphics cards from the 4x and 5x series. If you directly connect the graphics card to the JVC, the projector will think the resolution is 2880x1080 and will not sync. **
This information has been reported to Gary B in the UK, but there is no further information if this can/will be resolved in a firmware update. There has been an ongoing discussion the RS40 thread with a number of members trying different ATI solutions.
some of the current options:
run the nvidia card through a 1.4 capable AVR. Please post if you've had success with this setup, which AVR you are using, etc.
ATI 5450 - This is kind of working - I can get 3D BD playback via TMT5 and Powerdvd10 but not HD audio. The HD audio will drop out from time to time. This is surprising this card is working at all since it wasn't supposed to support 3D BD.
ATI 6850 / 6870 - Different reports on varying success with this card. Petri had some issues and couldn't get it working on his X7. This might have changed since 10.12 came out.
Please use this thread to discuss any solutions that are working including software, drivers, AVR setup, etc. thanks!
ausvette: No problem. i will let you know when i try this weekend
J5: In theory yes this should work. It should also work with the DVI-HDMI adapter that comes with some of those cards.
Now having said that it is a little bit more of a pain to get the dual out to work. I think is was zombie and i that were trying with the 5450 which did not have a display port.
In our case the only way we could get the audio to the reciever was to use the HDMI - to the Reciever and DVI-HDMI to the display. It would not work the other way if i remeber correctly.
Also in the ATI control panel it will see your reciever as a display and it will have to be enabled in order for windows to see it and output audio.
I know that some older 4xxx series ATI cards could send LPCM through a special DVI>HDMI adapter that came with the card, or you could get one from ATI for like $40 or something.
However, I'm not sure that is the case with the newer cards. I've tried a few adapters now (none that came with this card though), and the AMD driver immediately pops-up that annoying "you've connected an HDMI device through a DVI adapter, and therefore will not get audio..." message.
Nvidia on the other hand seems to work flawlessly with any DVI>HDMI adapter, bitstream and PCM, and even giving you the opportunity to switch from RGB and YCbCr. AMD does not give you the "Pixel Format" tab in CCC when using a DVI>HDMI adapter.
Unfortunately I have to use the HDMI straight to my PJ so i can get 1080/24(FP) 3D video because a DVI>HDMI adapter will not work for this purpose... or will it? I haven't even tried it yet.
I have tried using the H55 clarkdale motherboard with my 5770. I wanted to use the H55 motherboard's HDMI for audio and the 5770's HDMI for 3D video, but TMT5 crashed on startup with two different HDMI devices enabled. I had to either remove the video card or disable the H55's HDMI in order for TMT5 to work. Probably a protected path thing...who knows. Maybe the H67 will work better since it actually supports 3D.
Has anyone tried Win7 SP1 yet? Supposedly some HDMI issues have been addressed.
Wondering if an AMD Athlon ll X4 640 3.0 GHZ 64 bit quad-core with a Blu-ray drive & GT430 graphics card would be good enough to do 3d to my Acer 5360 projector.............don't do alot of gaming so thats not really a concern Basically for 3d movies.............Any help would be appreciated.....
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Wondering if an AMD Athlon ll X4 640 3.0 GHZ 64 bit quad-core with a Blu-ray drive & GT430 graphics card would be good enough to do 3d to my Acer 5360 projector.............don't do alot of gaming so thats not really a concern Basically for 3d movies.............Any help would be appreciated.....
that setup should be more than enough, the GT430 is doing most of the work decoding the BD content. I had a core i3 setup with 2 GB ram and the 430GT running my Acer 5360 / Ndivia vision setup with PDVD10 and TMT5.
Im having issues getting smooth 24p playback from MKV files. Blurays play fine at 24p through TMT5 or PowerDVD10, but I get occasional stutter from PowerDVD10 when I try playing MKV at 24hz. TMT5 keeps freezing up when switching to 24hz.
I have the Geforce gt430 card.
I also tried using MPC HC, but 24hz playback is out of sync and does stutter.
Is there anyway to play MKV with Power DVD10 or TMT5 at 24hz without issue?
What is my best option to get MKVs playing at 24hz with the geforce 430? If anyone can tell me how to get this working step by step, I would really appreciate it.
I don't mind starting from scratch and getting all new programs and just using TMT5 for bluray playback.
I looked at Reclock but it seems that it will not allow bitstream audio to be used with it, which makes it useless to me.
I can't believe how annoying it is to get 24p playback to work correctly on an HTPC with MKV files. Especially when you pay 100 bucks to get a program like Power DVD10 and it still does not work correctly.
Also what settings should I be using in the Nvidia control panel? Im using default settings with RGB colour space.
For those using the ATI 6850, have you noticed an improvement on 3D bluray ghosting over the nvidia cards? I have a nvidia 460 and the ghosting is pretty bad on the RS40....I tried all versions of drivers and the ghosting is the same. Probably the comment about Nvidia not supporting this projector yet is a problem. I did not have any ghosting with the 460 and my old optoma gt720. If the 6850 ghosting is much better, I'd make the jump.
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Originally Posted by bachuka /forum/post/20076178
For those using the ATI 6850, have you noticed an improvement on 3D bluray ghosting over the nvidia cards? I have a nvidia 460 and the ghosting is pretty bad on the RS40....I tried all versions of drivers and the ghosting is the same. Probably the comment about Nvidia not supporting this projector yet is a problem. I did not have any ghosting with the 460 and my old optoma gt720. If the 6850 ghosting is much better, I'd make the jump.
ghosting is a factor of the projector, not the source player or the source content. I have the Acer 5360 so I know what ghost-free 3D DLP images look like. Unfortunately, the LCOS and SXRD panels in the JVC and Sony appear to be more prone to ghosting than DLP.
Worse yet, is that there is likely some manufacturing variances between copies of each projector. I had an RS40 where the ghosting was noticeable, but my replacement RS50 is better. This isn't in the specs, so there could be some variances as they being built.
Are you letting 20-30 minutes pass by? it's a general consensus that the JVC's need a 'warm up' time before the ghosting is reduced by quite a bit.
let me know what 3D content you are watching, I have just about everything that's been released in 3D and can confirm certain scenes.
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Originally Posted by zombie10k /forum/post/20076211
ghosting is a factor of the projector, not the source player or the source content. I have the Acer 5360 so I know what ghost-free 3D DLP images look like. Unfortunately, the LCOS and SXRD panels in the JVC and Sony appear to be more prone to ghosting than DLP.
Worse yet, is that there is likely some manufacturing variances between copies of each projector. I had an RS40 where the ghosting was noticeable, but my replacement RS50 is better. This isn't in the specs, so there could be some variances as they being built.
Are you letting 20-30 minutes pass by? it's a general consensus that the JVC's need a 'warm up' time before the ghosting is reduced by quite a bit.
let me know what 3D content you are watching, I have just about everything that's been released in 3D and can confirm certain scenes.
Thanks for the quick reply. Yes, I have let the projector warm up for 1 hour plus and the results are pretty much the same. I see ghosting in pretty much all 3d bluray except avatar. Despicable me is probably the worst....especially the ending sequence with the guys with the ladder. Under the Sea....ghosting is noticed throughout the movie. I am using PDVD 10 and the 460 straight to the projector. I'm not sure which firmware version i have on the Rs40...wonder if I should try upgrading that. Not sure if that would affect ghosting.
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Originally Posted by bachuka /forum/post/20076265
Thanks for the quick reply. Yes, I have let the projector warm up for 1 hour plus and the results are pretty much the same. I see ghosting in pretty much all 3d bluray except avatar. Despicable me is probably the worst....especially the ending sequence with the guys with the ladder. Under the Sea....ghosting is noticed throughout the movie. I am using PDVD 10 and the 460 straight to the projector. I'm not sure which firmware version i have on the Rs40...wonder if I should try upgrading that. Not sure if that would affect ghosting.
Wow your experience is almost EXACTLY like mine. I first tried 3D on my RS40 with an AMD 5770 card and was really surprised at how much ghosting there was, given the gushing ghost-free feedback early in the RS40 thread, so I chalked it up to the 5xxx cards not officially supporting HDMI 1.4, and got an Nvidia 450 card to test. With the Nvidia card, the ghosting seems to be almost the same...maybe a slight improvement. I do prefer the auto-switch into 3D mode that the AMD cards have, so you dont have to go into the driver and switch your whole desktop into 3D for no reason.
From my observation, it seems that the objects that have ghosting are the ones with more pronounced 3D pop-out effect.
I recall that Avatar appear to have a mostly "deep" style of 3D instead of an "in your face" feeling, which is probably why it doesn't show the ghosting on the RS40 that other movies do.
Despicable Me was pretty disappointing, because the things that are really supposed to pop out at you tend to just seem like they "go cross-eyed" instead of coming farther towards you. However, the shallow 3D effects looked great! Gru's pointy nose was always perfect throughout the movie.
I know it's probably the panel variance between projectors and probably not fixable even with a JVC firmware update, but I'm still holding onto some hope that it is a HTPC software player thing. Someone mentioned that standalone bluray players have a "screen size" adjustment that I haven't found in the video card drivers or the software player interface.
If TMT5's 3D playback was designed around small-size computer monitors and short viewing distances, maybe that could explain why "shallow" 3D looks great but anything that tries to pop-out further seems to hit a wall and starts doubling up/ghosting and crossing over into itself. With my 92" screen, I'd say things generally look good up until they try to pop out more than 3 feet off of the screen. I really need to borrow a PS3 or some other player though. I just can't believe there would be so much variation between units that some people would get an amazing experience while others are left with a "see, I told you this 3D stuff was just a gimmick, put on the 2D version!" taste in their mouth.
All that being said, I've only tested Despicable Me, Alice, and the first 10 minutes of RE4. I'll have to test the movies people mention being ghost-free, such as Avatar and the owl movie.
Thanks J5 and Zoombie for your responses. I decided to go buy a Asus 6850 to test last night and swap out my Nvidia 460. I plugged it in, uninstalled all nvidia stuff, and downloaded the latest catalyst 11.2 drivers. To my surprise, the ghosting is much much better. The opening scene of IMAX under the sea where they show you some cinematics of how cool IMAX is, I use to see a lot of ghosting but no more. I use to see ghosting throughout under the sea but no more. There is still some ghosting but it is a lot better with the 6850. I'm not sure if its the drivers or the actual card itself. Either way, I'm going to keep it. I tested it out on despicable me and under the sea so far and both look much better.
For those who are curious, I do have an old 1.3 onkyo receiver and I was able to run the hdmi to receiver and dvi/hdmi to the projector and both HD sound and 3D picture worked perfectly so far. I need to do more testing but so far so good. I did have to leave the desktop on 1080p 24. What happens is that if I keep the desktop on 1080p 60 and do the appropriate scaling to my liking on the ATI control panel, it would not keep that scaling when it switched to 1080p 24 for 3D bluray. However, if I leave the desktop on 1080p 24 and do the scaling. The scaling remains the same for bluray, 3d bluray, and DVD.
Also, I think the 3D depth seems just a little bit deeper to me. If someone else will try this out and let me know your feedback too would be nice.
The only downfall I noticed so far is the shawdow detail on dark scenes is not as good as the Nvidia 460. I notice less detail even if I play with the brightness and contrast level. I will test this some more but to me, this is a minor detail.
In conclusion, I would recommend anyone not runing a 6xxx ATI to try it with this RS40/X3 projector to see if ghosting is improved. I'm running PDVD 10 latest version and patch. I have not tried tmt5 so I cannot comment. I think the ghosting now is as good as it was on my optoma GT720.
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Originally Posted by bachuka /forum/post/20080455
Thanks J5 and Zoombie for your responses. I decided to go buy a Asus 6850 to test last night and swap out my Nvidia 460. I plugged it in, uninstalled all nvidia stuff, and downloaded the latest catalyst 11.2 drivers. To my surprise, the ghosting is much much better. The opening scene of IMAX under the sea where they show you some cinematics of how cool IMAX is, I use to see a lot of ghosting but no more. I use to see ghosting throughout under the sea but no more. There is still some ghosting but it is a lot better with the 6850. I'm not sure if its the drivers or the actual card itself. Either way, I'm going to keep it. I tested it out on despicable me and under the sea so far and both look much better.
For those who are curious, I do have an old 1.3 onkyo receiver and I was able to run the hdmi to receiver and dvi/hdmi to the projector and both HD sound and 3D picture worked perfectly so far. I need to do more testing but so far so good. I did have to leave the desktop on 1080p 24. What happens is that if I keep the desktop on 1080p 60 and do the appropriate scaling to my liking on the ATI control panel, it would not keep that scaling when it switched to 1080p 24 for 3D bluray. However, if I leave the desktop on 1080p 24 and do the scaling. The scaling remains the same for bluray, 3d bluray, and DVD.
Also, I think the 3D depth seems just a little bit deeper to me. If someone else will try this out and let me know your feedback too would be nice.
The only downfall I noticed so far is the shawdow detail on dark scenes is not as good as the Nvidia 460. I notice less detail even if I play with the brightness and contrast level. I will test this some more but to me, this is a minor detail.
In conclusion, I would recommend anyone not runing a 6xxx ATI to try it with this RS40/X3 projector to see if ghosting is improved. I'm running PDVD 10 latest version and patch. I have not tried tmt5 so I cannot comment. I think the ghosting now is as good as it was on my optoma GT720.
This sounds like a timing issue to me. What sort of scaling are you doing? Perhaps scaling is introducing enough of a signal delay to cause the shutter glasses timing to be off.
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This sounds like a timing issue to me. What sort of scaling are you doing? Perhaps scaling is introducing enough of a signal delay to cause the shutter glasses timing to be off.
Which part are you referring to that might be a timing issue? As for the scaling, I will test it later with no scaling and with scaling if it makes a difference on ghosting. I set the ATI control panel to 0% which results in the biggest image
I haven't tried this exactly but I did try watching a 3D bluray with the Nvidia glasses and emitter and that did not work. I tried Nvidia glasses with JVC emitter, that did not work either.
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Originally Posted by bachuka /forum/post/20081410
Which part are you referring to that might be a timing issue? As for the scaling, I will test it later with no scaling and with scaling if it makes a difference on ghosting. I set the ATI control panel to 0% which results in the biggest image
Scaling to 100% isn't really scaling. It should be giving you 1:1 pixel mapping to the JVC (which also shouldn't involve any sort of processing delay). I thought maybe you were using the scaling control to adjust the image size or framing.
By "timing issue," I meant that perhaps some sort of delay was being introduced to toggle the shutter glasses off and on. I don't know how that could be happening, but then again I don't really understand why you would be seeing so much more ghosting with the nVidia card in the first place. If both cards are outputting the same 24fp signal, the results should be identical. But, hey, that's why computers can be so frustrating. So many things can go wrong and screw us up.
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark /forum/post/20081977
Scaling to 100% isn't really scaling. It should be giving you 1:1 pixel mapping to the JVC (which also shouldn't involve any sort of processing delay). I thought maybe you were using the scaling control to adjust the image size or framing.
By "timing issue," I meant that perhaps some sort of delay was being introduced to toggle the shutter glasses off and on. I don't know how that could be happening, but then again I don't really understand why you would be seeing so much more ghosting with the nVidia card in the first place. If both cards are outputting the same 24fp signal, the results should be identical. But, hey, that's why computers can be so frustrating. So many things can go wrong and screw us up.
Thanks....I was definitely not doing anything this technical and like you said, just scaling on the ATI control panel. My theory is that it's Nvidia's drivers....one previous post said he tried contacting Nvidia and they said they could not help him because the RS40 is not on their approved projector list yet. My former projector optoma GT720 was on the Nvidia approved projector list and the ghosting was minimal. My guess is that if/when Nvidia gets a driver that certifies the RS40, ghosting will be improved. I dont want to wait since the alternate solution, ATI 6850 is noticeably better right now.
This is the best news I've heard in a while! Thanks for sharing. I'm constantly fighting with this Nvidia card for simple things that worked like clockwork on the ATI card. The nvidia wouldnt even go into 3D mode at ALL yesterday. I'm going to get rid of it and get a 6850.
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Originally Posted by bachuka /forum/post/20080455
For those who are curious, I do have an old 1.3 onkyo receiver and I was able to run the hdmi to receiver and dvi/hdmi to the projector and both HD sound and 3D picture worked perfectly so far.
Wow, its nice to know that the 3D works even through DVI>HDMI. This is great news for AMD/ATI users with hdmi 1.3 AVRs who don't want to sacrifice HD audio for 3D.
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Originally Posted by bachuka /forum/post/20080455
Also, I think the 3D depth seems just a little bit deeper to me. If someone else will try this out and let me know your feedback too would be nice.
From what I've seen with my own HTPC ghosting, it was obvious that it was occurring on things that were displayed with more depth. The more an object is supposed to pop out in front or go deep behind the screen, the more I start seeing double instead of seeing the extra depth. The 3D effect that actually works just always looks a bit "shallow" to me as a result.
Now that you've seemed to fix the problem (whatever it was), It sounds like you are seeing 3D properly the way other users with standalone players are seeing it, with ghosting being more of a random issue based on colors and not a function of the 3D pop-out effect/depth.
Are there any 3D options in the ATI CCC with the 6850?
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Originally Posted by bachuka /forum/post/20080455
The only downfall I noticed so far is the shawdow detail on dark scenes is not as good as the Nvidia 460. I notice less detail even if I play with the brightness and contrast level. I will test this some more but to me, this is a minor detail.
What Pixel Format are you using? You could try switching between RGB and YCbCr to see if that eliminates the problem. There was an obvious difference in low levels when I used YCrCb on the ATI 5xxx card. However, with a DVI>HDMI dongle, the 5xxx card does not give me ANY pixel format options and defaults to RGB Full. Are you able to change the pixel format on the 6850 with your projector connected via DVI>HDMI adapter?
And also, are you connecting the PJ and AVR the same way that you did with the Nvidia card?
J5, glad my post was able to help. I'm going to try and answer all your questions...let me know if I miss anything.
There are no 3D options I'm aware of on ATI's control panel. There is one for 3D depth on powerdvd but I think that only applies for 2D upconversion to 3D which I dont care about cuz it does not look good to me....rather watch the 2D movie.
I figured out my shadow detail problem. I had to adjust the video picture settings on the ATI control panel instead of letting pdvd do it. By adjusting the brightness and contrast, I was able to get the same shadow detail as the nvidia.
As for connecting it to the 1.3 onkyo, it was the exact opposite of the Nvidia. The nvidia only worked for me when I connected hdmi to projector and dvi/hdmi to receiver. For the 6850, it is the other way around. I did have a weird random bug today when I powered down my system and back up. I could not get the sound to work. The fix after about an hour of troubleshooting was to go to sound under control panel, locate the AMD HDMI sound and double click and then go to level. Somehow my hdmi out was set to 0, changed it back to 100 and all works again.
I was also able to get the desktop to be on 1080 60 and switch to 1080 24fp for 3D and maintain the scaling on the ATI control panel. The fix was to set the desktop to 1080 60 and then scale to desired size on ATI control panel. After that, switch desktop to 1080 24 and then do the same scaling. Now switch back to 1080 60 and when it switches to 1080 24fp for 3D movies, it will maintain the same picture size.
Lastly, I did some more testing on 3D ghosting. I'm 100% that under the sea 3D looks much better on the 6850 then Nvidia 460. I cannot say for certain with Despicable Me or others. I rewatched some of despicable me and still noticed ghosting but if my memory serves me correctly, it seemed less. I also watched space station in 3D for the first time, noticed some ghosting. Since I did not watch it on the 460, I cannot say if it was better or not. Net net, I still think it is better and remain hopeful that future drivers will improve ghosting even more.
I'll probably hang onto the 460 just in case Nvidia release drivers that certifies the RS40 as an approved projector. I just want the least amount of ghosting without having to go up to the RS50
I do not experience any more ghosting with Nvidia 430 compared to the Ati 6850 of a friend with similar setup or a panasonic BR3D I tested in my system. The only issue so far with the Nvidia is that it cannot output 1080p 23,976 in 3D mode, but even this does not create any hickups. The problem you mention must have a different cause..
Out of curiosity, did you swap the cables when you changed cards or leave the same cables plugged into the projector and AVR and simply swap the DVI>HDMI adapter on the computer side?
The reason I ask is because of the off-chance that the bad ghosting/depth problem you had (and I am currently having) could be related to the cable used to transport the 1080p(FP) to the projector. If the cable is the same, its just one more variable that I don't have to worry about making a difference for this particular issue (and more proof that the 6850 fixed it)
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bachuka, thanks for your reply.
Out of curiosity, did you swap the cables when you changed cards or leave the same cables plugged into the projector and AVR and simply swap the DVI>HDMI adapter on the computer side?
The reason I ask is because of the off-chance that the bad ghosting/depth problem you had (and I am currently having) could be related to the cable used to transport the 1080p(FP) to the projector. If the cable is the same, its just one more variable that I don't have to worry about making a difference for this particular issue (and more proof that the 6850 fixed it)
I used the same cables, however, the DVI/HDMI use to go to the receiver and hdmi went to projector. Now its the DVI/HDMI that goes to the projector and hdmi to receiver. I would prefer hdmi to projector, however, the receiver did not like dvi/hdmi from the 6850....weird.
I'm going to do more testing and put back in the nvidia 460 card and check out certain scences in Under the Sea 3D and compare it against the ATI 6850. More to come soon. Plus there are new beta drivers for nvidia I want to check out too.
I used this exact same HDMI cable when I had my optoma GT720 which is still the best from a ghosting perspective I've seen so I dont think its the cable.
Well I went ahead and got an AMD 6850 and sure enough, the 3D is fixed!
Whereas only certain parts of the image looked 3D to me before, now everything is three dimensional, even if there is some ghosting in the image.
The overall experience is MUCH improved, and I now feel like the ghosting is within tolerance, judging by what other RS40 owners are saying about the various 3D movies out there. Despicable Me still is ghosting all over the place, but now has much more depth and sharpness.
I connected it exactly like bachuka did: DVI>HDMI>projector, HDMI>Onkyo AVR.
I actually never tried 3D through the DVI>HDMI adpater on my ATI 5770 card. I should probably but that card back in and try it. It would be pretty funny if the DVI adapter was the thing that fixed the 3D. I somehow doubt it though. It's probably some kind of timing issue, and the 6xxx cards sync better with the RS40--well at least mine and bachuka's. takisot must have gotten a unit with slightly faster panels or something.
I don't think so.. I told you I have tested it with another JVC (X9) with similar results.
It is more possible that there is a screw up in your HTPC configuration with Nvidia drivers or something else, that for me to have a "golden" JVC sample...
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Well I went ahead and got an AMD 6850 and sure enough, the 3D is fixed!
Whereas only certain parts of the image looked 3D to me before, now everything is three dimensional, even if there is some ghosting in the image.
The overall experience is MUCH improved, and I now feel like the ghosting is within tolerance, judging by what other RS40 owners are saying about the various 3D movies out there. Despicable Me still is ghosting all over the place, but now has much more depth and sharpness.
I connected it exactly like bachuka did: DVI>HDMI>projector, HDMI>Onkyo AVR.
I actually never tried 3D through the DVI>HDMI adpater on my ATI 5770 card. I should probably but that card back in and try it. It would be pretty funny if the DVI adapter was the thing that fixed the 3D. I somehow doubt it though. It's probably some kind of timing issue, and the 6xxx cards sync better with the RS40--well at least mine and bachuka's. takisot must have gotten a unit with slightly faster panels or something.
I'm glad I was able to help. I did notice a weird bug for me where I had to have the PC fully booted before I can turn on the receiver. If I turn on the receiver sooner, the sound would not work. I guess its an acceptable workaround so I dont have to buy a 1.4 receiver.
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Originally Posted by takisot /forum/post/20090661
I don't think so.. I told you I have tested it with another JVC (X9) with similar results.
It is more possible that there is a screw up in your HTPC configuration with Nvidia drivers or something else, that for me to have a "golden" JVC sample...
I'm not suggesting that yours is a golden sample, I just mean that my RS40 does not sync with different 3D bluray players as well as yours does, and that the reason is unknown. Some people have attributed the observed differences in ghosting to panel variance. I can believe the amount of ghosting I am seeing NOW with the 6850 card could be attributed to panel variance, but what I was seeing before was much worse than that.
For me, it wasn't just Nvidia. The ATI 5770 had the same problem as the Nvidia 450 card. I also tried the 5770 card in someone else's htpc with a different hdmi cord and much bigger screen and the result was exactly the same. The one thing i haven't tried is putting the 5770 back in and installing the recent 11.2 catalyst drivers. I'll swap back to the 5770 to see if the driver alone fixed the 3D problem and not the 6850 hardware.
I'm guessing its the hardware though. Comparing the 5770 and the 6850 cards, It is obvious that the 3D support is more mature on the 6xxx cards. It switches into (FP) mode much more quickly, and also can show the 3D movie in a window. By contrast, the 5xxx card could only display frame packed 3D while in exclusive full screen mode.
And in comparison to Nvidia, even though the drivers still do not include any "setup" things for stereoscopic 3D like Nvidia does, the AMD 6xxx cards just seem more adept at switching between 2d and 3d modes.
Bachuka, is your AVR set as display #2 and is the desktop extended to it (not duplicated)?
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