Just got my Samsung PN50C550 on Wednesday. Set looks amazing especially going from an 11 year old 32" RCA CRT to this High Def Beauty. I am still in the break in period but even with everything turned down the set looks incredible (Battle Field Bad Company 2, I think I wet my self). I would also Like to report that I have "NO BUZZING"
Let me know any settings I need to change or check and also any other questions you may have about the set. Keep it simple though I'm an HD Noob.
I just had a Samsung authorized service tech come here. I showed him the horizontal banding and he went out to his van and came back and claimed it was burn-in and Samsung wouldn't cover it.
After arguing with him for a few minutes, he out of the blue, states that he will order a new panel and it usually takes about a week to arrive.
Very weird. He was trying to claim that the directv guide permanently burned-in the banding. Interesting theory except the menu and the banding do not line up.
He also claimed that I waited more than 30 days and Samsung wouldn't cover it. The dude was all over the place.
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Originally Posted by mikek /forum/post/20184477
I just had a Samsung authorized service tech come here. I showed him the horizontal banding and he went out to his van and came back and claimed it was burn-in and Samsung wouldn't cover it.
After arguing with him for a few minutes, he out of the blue, states that he will order a new panel and it usually take about a week to arrive.
Very weird. He was trying to claim that the directv guide permanently burned-in the banding. Interesting theory except the menu and the banding do not line up.
He also claimed that I waited more than 30 days and Samsung wouldn't cover it. The dude was all over the place.
Strange service call. I assume banding is covered and burn-in isn't? I wonder if there is a correlation between banding and either burn-in and/or Image Retention. For example I've seen some banding (on a c8000) that shows a ghost image of the CNN logo within the band. But that image goes away in time, and banding doesn't. I also assume that the image would be classified as IR, since it does go away in time. Maybe someone with less ignorance than me could clarify that relationship between banding and IR or burn-in.
Hey guys I got the picture to my liking thanks to the settimgs thread.
I still have one problem with my set, its more noticeable when watching sports such as hockey. Sometime the framerate will drop for a split second and I will see what I think is called judder.
This happens on any channel on my cable box, havent noticed it on blu-ray or xbox, but I have yet to sit down and watch a movie or play long games sessions.
I want to provide an update on my PN50C550 and the issue I raised a few weeks ago. After a bunch of testing and experimenting, I isolated the problem down to a faulty HDMI cable. I've since replaced that cable and the problem has disappeared.
I thought it would be good to post this, just to clear the TV's good name! It was not the firmware update that was causing the problem. I don't know how or why the HDMI became faulty, but I suppose that just happens sometimes.
Hi to everybody. I’ve been reading the thread for awhile (particularly the first 50 pages or so) and find it fascinating and very instructive. I recently bought a PN50C550 and had already put it through the ropes of break-in (over 150 hours of slides AND full screen movies with no subtitles, at a rate of about 15 hours daily…. Hey guys we are breaking-in the TV, no punishing it!). The main use of the TV is going to be for DVD and Bluray movies.
First let me tell you how I came to this TV. I am always been an advocate of Plasma and my last two TVs have been plasmas (LG and Panasonic). Nevertheless living as I do now in South America we cannot have access to the variety of models and brands as you Americans do; and besides here these appliances are quite expensive. So it is important to find a balance between what a model cost here (related to its USA cost) and its features and capabilities. And remember there is no such a thing as a perfect TV, both plasmas and LCDs have issues of their own. So after passing through some Panasonics and even some LED LCDs, I fell in love with this TV when I saw it 3 weeks ago in a Showroom.
For the record I will state that mine came with no dead pixels, no buzzing (at least that I am able to detect), and no banding issues (Yes there is a very, VERY faint sort of band or horizontal line one third from the top, but it is almost indistinguishable even on a full white image). The factory date of my TV is May 2010, for those of you interested.
I made the firmware update and the transition to a C590 via the Service Menu, and I am very pleased with the Cinema Smooth function (Just check the rolling of the credits at the end of a movie and you will see what I am talking about) and in all I am very pleased with the general performance of the TV, even though I find the color rendering perhaps a little bit subdue with what I was accustomed (or my taste for that matter), and the black performance not particularly better than my previous displays.
There are some topics I want to converse with you. First I see that on all calibrations that have appeared in the thread, they always put the Sharpness at or near zero. That makes no sense to me and results in (what I believe) a sort of “soft” image: if you have a ruler that goes from 0 to 100, IMHO the default response should be around the middle, and from there you can ADD or SUBSTRACT sharpness according to the source and your taste.
Second, there is some inexplicable randomness in the way that HDMI Black Level functions. In my LG DVD, I am able to access this control and to switch it from Normal to Low; in my Sony Bluray I am not, it is grayed out to Normal. I have no clue about why.
Third this set has actually some sort of “Infinite Black” at work: each time the program source dissolves to a complete black the display turns off for an instant; this is more evident when you are watching the set at night and/or when the final credits of a film start to appear over a black background. As some people who have commented this issue in the Panasonics sets, I have not made my mind yet.
Well I am sorry to have made this post so long. I hope all of you enjoy your TVs as I am doing with mine.
Originally Posted by calvinice
Third this set has actually some sort of Infinite Black at work: each time the program source dissolves to a complete black the display turns off for an instant; this is more evident when you are watching the set at night and/or when the final credits of a film start to appear over a black background. As some people who have commented this issue in the Panasonics sets, I have not made my mind yet.
I hope you end up liking it as much as most of us do! I have something for you to try about that last issue. I think I may've seen that happen before I adjusted my source device (cable box, satellite reciever, etc.) See if you can change the video settings in that device to just 1080p or just the 720s and 1080s. Also see if that box has a 'native res' setting or anything like that. This is just a theory, but if all resolutions are checked, I think the panel takes time to search for the native (or best) res and that may give you the issue you explained.
Originally Posted by ItzMe
I hope you end up liking it as much as most of us do! I have something for you to try about that last issue. I think I may've seen that happen before I adjusted my source device (cable box, satellite reciever, etc.) See if you can change the video settings in that device to just 1080p or just the 720s and 1080s. Also see if that box has a 'native res' setting or anything like that. This is just a theory, but if all resolutions are checked, I think the panel takes time to search for the native (or best) res and that may give you the issue you explained.
I think I read somewhere that if brigthness is set bellow a certain level, the screen will shut down if not much is displayed on screen...you might want to rise it a little bit to see if it helps.
As far as my picture hesitation or "judder" on hd cable box, it seemed to help if film mode was set to auto1 instead of auto2!
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Originally Posted by calvinice /forum/post/20202342
There are some topics I want to converse with you. First I see that on all calibrations that have appeared in the thread, they always put the Sharpness at or near zero. That makes no sense to me and results in (what I believe) a sort of soft image: if you have a ruler that goes from 0 to 100, IMHO the default response should be around the middle, and from there you can ADD or SUBSTRACT sharpness according to the source and your taste.
Second, there is some inexplicable randomness in the way that HDMI Black Level functions. In my LG DVD, I am able to access this control and to switch it from Normal to Low; in my Sony Bluray I am not, it is grayed out to Normal. I have no clue about why.
Third this set has actually some sort of Infinite Black at work: each time the program source dissolves to a complete black the display turns off for an instant; this is more evident when you are watching the set at night and/or when the final credits of a film start to appear over a black background. .
How are this models for gaming? I read that Samsung have lots of lag with PS3 or XBOX360 but I know C550 has game mode. How well performed this TV with game mode enable?
Do you know if 'buzz' problem has been resolved?
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Originally Posted by longball07 /forum/post/20179594
Read the thread, answers to your questions are within!
Regarding Input Lag: Game mode seem very good to lower input lag on this set but can I expect a good image quality with this mode enable?
Regarding Buzz: Not all set seem to Buzz equally, Some are noisy and some are quiet. Anyway I don't think it's a deal breaker in my case because I have an high end receiver and I like to push this little baby very hard!!!
Just pulled the trigger on this TV been on the fence about which way to go (ie. Plasma, LCD, LED, DLP)
Hope it works in this set up. This DLP has to go. One speaker is going out, the internal tv tuner isn't working and it now has one blue dot which annoys the heck out of me. But I have had it since July 2004. So I'm hoping that this new Plasma will give just as good life and this one.
Big window to the West 18' x 6' lots of light.
as you can tell this is an old pic only thing changed is that I don't use Dish anymore.
vorghath, I think you'll be pleased with your decision. BTW, I just got rid of my old Panny, that same model! I sold on Craigslist for $250. The speaker was going on mine, too.
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Originally Posted by ItzMe /forum/post/20202518
I hope you end up liking it as much as most of us do! I have something for you to try about that last issue. I think I may've seen that happen before I adjusted my source device (cable box, satellite reciever, etc.) See if you can change the video settings in that device to just 1080p or just the 720s and 1080s. Also see if that box has a 'native res' setting or anything like that. This is just a theory, but if all resolutions are checked, I think the panel takes time to search for the native (or best) res and that may give you the issue you explained.
Thanks ItzMe for your replay... I do not think that this effect has to do with the resolution.
When I add an Absolute Black slide (Thanks to the other fellow who posted it for download in this thread) via the USB port, it happens exactly the same. I think that is something that has to do with the processing engine of the TV, that is similar to Panasonic's Infinite Black, only that Samsung does not make too much fuss about it as Panasonic does, which is OK, after all is not a big deal.
Regarding the Sharpness I must admit that my two previous plasmas had the sharpness default option (depending on the Picture Option) around or near the middle of the ruler, which appeared sound to me. The Samsung’s User Manual is no help in this issue. Nevertheless I find the image too soft for my taste near Zero, so I will keep my settings (about 30 for the Bluray and 40 for the DVD).
Respect the HDMI Black Level control, the only thing I found specifically on the thread was a comment by tomsem that depending if the output was on RGB or YCbCr this function is respectively available or not . I am no able to tell if my LG DVD is outputting in RGB, because the only option it has in this regard is something they call BLE (Black Level Expansion); but also the Sony Bluray has something “similar” they call HDMI Deep Color Output. As usual the User Manuals on both units are cryptic about exactly how each one works or what actually does. By the way, which is supposedly the best way to output to the TV RGB or YCbCr?
I have checked the Eco function and it is completely turned off, so I will stick to the school of thinking that it is something that is inherent to the design of the processing engine of the TV.
What can I say WOW, what an improvement over my DLP. It looks small in my cabinet should have gone bigger
These pictures are taken in the morning 7:20 am you can see what I have to contend with
Once the TV is on LOOK
Thanks you all for turning me on to such a great TV.
No buzzing
Even the wife notice a difference in the picture that alone is like seeing someone walk on water.
I still need to do some tweakin I'm sure that after I have used it for a month or so I can get the colors dialed in.
Right now I just can't dial in the flesh tones, there not Yellow or Green but most people look like they have a tan. Which I know there alot of people that haven't been in the sun,
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Originally Posted by vorghath /forum/post/0
Wow just got my TV in.
What can I say WOW, what an improvement over my DLP. It looks small in my cabinet should have gone bigger
These pictures are taken in the morning 7:20 am you can see what I have to contend with
Once the TV is on LOOK
Thanks you all for turning me on to such a great TV.
No buzzing
Even the wife notice a difference in the picture that alone is like seeing someone walk on water.
I still need to do some tweakin I'm sure that after I have used it for a month or so I can get the colors dialed in.
Right now I just can't dial in the flesh tones, there not Yellow or Green but most people look like they have a tan. Which I know there alot of people that haven't been in the sun,
I received a couple of phone calls today. Caller ID says it is KW ITECH.
They asked me about my TV repair and I told them it hasn't been repaired yet. The person told me that the service center received the part and I should have been contacted about repairing the TV. She said she will contact them and that they will contact me about scheduling a repair.
A few hours later Samsung(KW ITECH) called me and asked me the same questions. She said the repair is taking too long and asked if I would be interested in a replacement. I told her that would be fine.
Not too long later she called back and said that this model is out of stock and that they will replace the TV with the 2011 51 inch model.
So that is the lastest news. Hopefully I will get the newer model and I won't have these same problems.
-mk
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