There is a glaring mis-print in the manual - it says the TV has a 96Hz option but that's incorrect - it does not have this. It is confirmed that it's mis-print.
Edit - A few said that the manual booklet that came with their TV contained an insert with the correction.
I also couldn't believe the price for the 50" GT30 on Panny's EPP website. I quickly ordered it and, like you, are hoping they will honor the price. My order does show up on Panny's tracking page, but interestingly there are no prices listed for the TV's on the EPP site right now.
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Originally Posted by jpole1 /forum/post/20248845
I also couldn't believe the price for the 50" GT30 on Panny's EPP website. I quickly ordered it and, like you, are hoping they will honor the price. My order does show up on Panny's tracking page, but interestingly there are no prices listed for the TV's on the EPP site right now.
You better return it, the GT model is defective this year. Maybe next years GT35 will be better. I'm gonna take a stab in the dark and say that the ST will be the only model worth buying from Pany. If you look online, for the price of a brand new 65VT25, you can buy a 65VT30 AND a 55ST30. I'm willing to bet someone has some inside info on the new sets and that info my friend (sadly to say) is these new models are garbage compared to last years and thats why they are selling them so high.
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You better return it, the GT model is defective this year. Maybe next years GT35 will be better. I'm gonna take a stab in the dark and say that the ST will be the only model worth buying from Pany. If you look online, for the price of a brand new 65VT25, you can buy a 65VT30 AND a 55ST30. I'm willing to bet someone has some inside info on the new sets and that info my friend (sadly to say) is these new models are garbage compared to last years and thats why they are selling them so high.
Panasonic will NOT be honoring those prices for the 55GT30... It was clearly a glitch or something, because the next day they took the site down for maintenance and now the prices are back to normal.
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Originally Posted by senkoskipper /forum/post/20248879
You better return it, the GT model is defective this year. Maybe next years GT35 will be better. I'm gonna take a stab in the dark and say that the ST will be the only model worth buying from Pany. If you look online, for the price of a brand new 65VT25, you can buy a 65VT30 AND a 55ST30. I'm willing to bet someone has some inside info on the new sets and that info my friend (sadly to say) is these new models are garbage compared to last years and thats why they are selling them so high.
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Originally Posted by senkoskipper /forum/post/20248879
You better return it, the GT model is defective this year. Maybe next years GT35 will be better. I'm gonna take a stab in the dark and say that the ST will be the only model worth buying from Pany. If you look online, for the price of a brand new 65VT25, you can buy a 65VT30 AND a 55ST30. I'm willing to bet someone has some inside info on the new sets and that info my friend (sadly to say) is these new models are garbage compared to last years and thats why they are selling them so high.
I'm not sure if this is classic avs trolling or not...
the sets have received nothing but positive reviews, and the impressions across the board have been extraordinarily positive. There's a problem with THX mode in the GT30 with gamma, that likely isn't there in custom, and this issue may not even be a permanent one as the set the gamma was tested on wasn't fully broken in nor fully calibrated.
As for your comment I bolded, you're 'willing to bet' wildly inaccurate comments based on...nothing so far, other than your own post. And selling them so high? The sets this year are all significantly better than last in their respective 'one-lower' lines according to ...everyone whose seen them.
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Originally Posted by jpole1 /forum/post/20248845
I also couldn't believe the price for the 50" GT30 on Panny's EPP website. I quickly ordered it and, like you, are hoping they will honor the price. My order does show up on Panny's tracking page, but interestingly there are no prices listed for the TV's on the EPP site right now.
Well they do have a disclaimer somewhere on their website that basically says they reserve the right to cancel or refuse an order if it's discovered that there was a pricing error, even after the credit card has been charged.
The regular online Panasonic Store also had drastically lower prices a few days ago then they raised them back up to MSRP, then the whole website went down for about a day.
This all happened on April Fools, so it's possible that someone hacked their site and lowered all their prices.
In one sense you are right. In another sense they've never got the gamma right on any of their TV's to begin with. Hopefully the VT30 will have a 10 point control and we can correct this.
Now that there is a Panasonic Insider on another forum this year, information and feedback from the calibrators and enthusiasts is probably getting back to the right people at Panasonic so maybe this year things will move a lot quicker.
Originally Posted by Vader182
I'm not sure if this is classic avs trolling or not...
the sets have received nothing but positive reviews, and the impressions across the board have been extraordinarily positive. There's a problem with THX mode in the GT30 with gamma, that likely isn't there in custom, and this issue may not even be a permanent one as the set the gamma was tested on wasn't fully broken in nor fully calibrated.
As for your comment I bolded, you're 'willing to bet' wildly inaccurate comments based on...nothing so far, other than your own post. And selling them so high? The sets this year are all significantly better than last in their respective 'one-lower' lines according to ...everyone whose seen them.
Please don't misinform other forum users.
THX and thinner is what sets this apart from the lower ST model. Sorry but I want to be able to use all of my tv functions. A porsche 911 turbo would not be acceptable if the turbos didn't work, even if it just got off the factory assembly line. I've already read the reviews from calibrators and sure they have some nice things to say but the tone on their posts/reviews is of dissapointment. Look i know you guys like panasonic and I do to but c'mon, you can't really sit there and tell me that the GT30 is a superior product. If this was LG or some of those other cheap brands, it would be acceptable. But when your known for making one of the best plasmas in the market and you advertise as so, then its unacceptable. If anything you guys are misinforming people with your blind nuthuggery of panasonic.
Originally Posted by senkoskipper
THX and thinner is what sets this apart from the lower ST model. Sorry but I want to be able to use all of my tv functions. A porsche 911 turbo would not be acceptable if the turbos didn't work, even if it just got off the factory assembly line. I've already read the reviews from calibrators and sure they have some nice things to say but the tone on their posts/reviews is of dissapointment. Look i know you guys like panasonic and I do to but c'mon, you can't really sit there and tell me that the GT30 is a superior product. If this was LG or some of those other cheap brands, it would be acceptable. But when your known for making one of the best plasmas in the market and you advertise as so, then its unacceptable. If anything you guys are misinforming people with your blind nuthuggery of panasonic.
Am I correct that the gamma issue is reported on one unit of a set that was "quick reviewed"? I think I'd wait for more reports on properly broken in units before assuming that this is a widespread issue.
Originally Posted by videoguy60467
Am I correct that the gamma issue is reported on one unit of a set that was "quick reviewed"? I think I'd wait for more reports on properly broken in units before assuming that this is a widespread issue.
Yep, and now it appears that there may have been an error with the preliminary HDJ gamma reading. Stay tuned.
Originally Posted by larrysplasma
Today, I have my brand new Samsung 64inch plasma (64d550) going back to the store, the shippers are picking it up any moment. The Samsung actually looked great but had a very bad shifting black problem, where the black horizontal bars would keep shifting from black to grey, back and forth, during the movie.
I am using the credit from this purchase towards the Panasonic 65 inch GT30. I was told to expect them in Mid-May. Does anyone have any different information?
Not to go off topic but 2011 Samsungs have floating black levels?
Correct, I read on HDJ that their intial Gamma reading was incorrect. It appears that the reading was actually 1.9 (still a little bright I know), but until a proper review is done on the set, I will withhold judgement.
Originally Posted by senkoskipper
THX and thinner is what sets this apart from the lower ST model. Sorry but I want to be able to use all of my tv functions. A porsche 911 turbo would not be acceptable if the turbos didn't work, even if it just got off the factory assembly line. I've already read the reviews from calibrators and sure they have some nice things to say but the tone on their posts/reviews is of dissapointment. Look i know you guys like panasonic and I do to but c'mon, you can't really sit there and tell me that the GT30 is a superior product. If this was LG or some of those other cheap brands, it would be acceptable. But when your known for making one of the best plasmas in the market and you advertise as so, then its unacceptable. If anything you guys are misinforming people with your blind nuthuggery of panasonic.
I'm sorry, but you are going off a bit half-cocked here. The person who wrote that HDJ report has said explicitly that he's very confident the gamma measurement was flawed. In fact, they're pretty sure it came from the calibrator just mistakenly measuring 90 IRE twice instead of 90 and then 100. This sort of error happens all the time in calibrations, especially when they're pressed for time.
The misinformation here is from you, not from the other participants.
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Correct, I read on HDJ that their intial Gamma reading was incorrect. It appears that the reading was actually 1.9 (still a little bright I know), but until a proper review is done on the set, I will withhold judgement.
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In one sense you are right. In another sense they've never got the gamma right on any of their TV's to begin with. Hopefully the VT30 will have a 10 point control and we can correct this.
Larry what set is that measurment for and who took the measurement?
Simply posting a graph hardly supports much of anything.
What sets did Panasonic release that had 2.2 gamma in THX right out of the box?
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