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Black/Red Theater (Yes it was named something else before)
Construction by BIGmouthinDC and Damelon (Construction Time: 7/26/11 - Mid November 2011)
Inspiration from Sandman's/SMX Theater - Acoustical Plans by Bryan Pape (BPape)

Room Details (Trying to make this a table!)
Initial Space : 23’6”L x 16’4”W x 8’9”H
Wall Construction : Room in a Room. Second wall with 1” gap.
Space after Secondary Wall : 22’8”L x 15’4”W x 8’9”H
Wall Decoupling Method : RISC-DC04 Clips
Ceiling Decoupling Method : Clip & Channel
Drywall Method : 2 Layers of 5/8” Drywall with Green Glue
Door : 28” Wide, 1 ¾” Thick solid core door.
Soffit Size : 16” Wide x 10” Tall
Column Info : 6 Columns, 16” Wide x 10” Deep
Screen Size : 130” Wide (149" diag) SeymourAV Centerstage XD with horizontal masking panels
Stage Specs : 2x10s, Sand Filled, Double ¾” Plywood with Felt
Riser Specs : 2x12s, Insulation Filled, Double ¾” Plywood with Felt
Front Wall Treatment : 2” 3lb Dense Cotton – OC703 Corner Bass Traps
Side Wall Treatments : 1” 3lb Dense Cotton
Rear Wall Treatments : 2” OC703 with Paper Face + 2” air gap
Fabric Colors : GOM Black and GOM Claret Accent.
Paint Color : Behr (Home Depot) Antique Ruby (To Match Fabric)
Viewing Distances : 12’ Front Row, 18’ Rear Row (Approx)
Projector : JVC RS540 E-Shift 4K
Speakers : 3x Axiom M80 L/C/R, 4x Axiom QS8 Surrounds
Subwoofers : 2x Seaton Submersive HP+ (Master & Slave)
Amp : Sunfire TGA7400
Preamp : Denon X4500H (Previously Onkyo PR-SC5508)
HTPC : 50TB Unraid NAS & HTPC using Kodi with RTX2060
Carpet : Stainmaster "Silver Lake" (Lowes)

ALL PHOTOS CAN BE VIEWED IN THE ALBUM LINK BELOW.
BR Theater Build Album

Link to my complete cost breakdown of the theater, along with several links of where I acquired products
https://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post21138019

Original Acoustical Plan design (See above for treatment variance on side/rear walls)
Acoustical Plan

Original Completed Photos - Theater (Scope Screen)




Theater Screen Conversion (to 16:9) & Star Ceiling Addition - 2015



 

Pool Information:
Size : (31,000 Gallons) about 42 feet long and 16-20 feet wide depending on location.
Retaining Wall Stone is Sequoia Rustic Ledge from El Dorado Stone
Pool Automation Equipment - Jandy Aqualink
Pool Lights : Hayward Colorlogic
Pool Pumps : Jandy
Pool Heater : Raypak 400k BTU Propane 

Beginning of Patio Project - End Phase 1 - Spring 2013 (Under-Deck, Bar/Grill, and Hot Tub Area)





End of Patio Project - Summer 2016
WINNER : 1st place / Cast-in-Place, Stamped / Under 5,000 SF Category from American Society of Concrete Contractors 2016




Basement Bar Project. Completed July, 2014


 
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#486 ·
Keep on rollin! Looking good.


I like the custom door way: shows off the goods
 
#488 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by BIGmouthinDC /forum/post/21061418


49.5 x 27.875


The bevel face is 7/8 which is half way between the two samples we looked at.

Ok cool. I will make sure to get the rest of the measurements to you this week, at least for the red panels.


Talked with the delivery people, the chairs will get delivered tomorrow.
 
#489 ·
Because I know how much you like details, here is the information I just sent to BIG about all of the large Red panels, which we are installing first:


All Red Panels are 49 1/2" high, Centered on the vertical middle of the Black Fabric section of the Columns (Which is 46" high) So there will be a 1 3/4" overlap top and bottom.


Between front Columns and Screenwall

2 Red Panels, 18" wide


Between Front Two (Right) Columns, Far Wall from Door

83 7/8" total width, divided into 3 Panels.

We decided 27 7/8" per panel.


Between Rear Side Right Column and Rear Corner

84 3/4" to back wall.

Just make 3 Panels 27 7/8" each. The rear panel will be hidden just

over an inch from the rear wall panel.

Baseboard will have to be mitred with Right Rear Corner. Remember the

side wall is mounted on the wall. The rear baseboard is mounted 2"

out. So mitre in person.


Right Rear Corner, Between Side Wall and Rear Right Column

38 1/4" between column and Side Wall. Make baseboard the entire

length so we can mitre it to join the side one.

Red Panel in this section will need to be custom due to fitting it around the rack space.

We should cut and measure in person.


Rear Center

68 7/8" total length

3 Panels. What do you think, 22 7/8" each?


Left Rear Corner

38 1/2" to Left Side wall Do not cut baseboard short due to mitring

with Left Side Rear Area

1 Red Panel I think. Remember it would be 1" shorter due to side

panel, and it will not have a camfer on one side.


Left Side Rear Area

85" to rear wall

Make 3 Panels 27 7/8" long.

Baseboard will need to be cut to mitred length with Left rear corner area.


Middle Door Section

** Note, I don't know about how we should cut baseboard and camfers

here. There is a small gap between the door itself and the casing,

so we can just mount the panels to the edge of the gap here and

probably not worry about it rubbing, and on the hinge side, I think we

are completely safe due to the wide throw hinge. The baseboards are

another story. The entire width is about 83 3/4". We might be

able to Cut the baseboard at an angle at the door opening side so it

closes completely flush with the other piece of baseboard, but on the

hinge side we might need to leave a small gap.

Depends on how the door actually opens with panels in place.


From rear column side to the inside of the door casing is exactly 28"

Door itself is 27 7/8"

From Front side column to inside of door casing is 27 3/4"


Between front left column and screenwall, another 18" red panel.


There will be custom floor to ceiling black panels in front of the two

front red panels to make sure the screenwall panels are removable. I

think once our blocking is in, we can make it like a 2x4 block (small

piece, painted black) mounted to the wall. The side black panel will

just go all the way to the block, and then the screenwall side black

panels will be able to be mounted an inch out from the wall on the

same block. There will be no camfering on this corner, so it will be

flush, allowing the screenwall panels to be removed without removing

the side panels.


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Just so the rest of you know, someone brought up a question, "Why didn't I paint all of my walls black". Well other than I didn't need to, writing notes and drawing lines on them becomes a big pain if you do that. It turns out though, that we all make mistakes in planning and noticed that the fabric section of the columns is recessed a little from the column itself. Also, some columns aren't exactly flush with the wall. Since the Red panels are vertically longer than the fabric area by 3 1/2", they can only rest flush against the side of the column. So there is a small space between the red panel and the fabric, where the wall could be visible. So I am taping the sides of the columns up and painting small black vertical lines against them a few inches wide to resolve this issue.
 
#491 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by BIGmouthinDC /forum/post/21063493


I think the rear wall base board will have to be mounted 3 inches out from the wall not 2.


Door bottom seals arrived today.


on that order list of panels, would you like fries with that?

1) Checks and Balances, you are correct, sir.

2) YAY

3) Please. And not crappy wendy's super-salt fries or burger kings only batter no potato fries. GOOD fries. Five Guys Fries, Arbys Curly Fries, even McD's fries. And a milkshake from fudruckers.
 
#492 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by damelon /forum/post/21063423


We might be

able to Cut the baseboard at an angle at the door opening side so it

closes completely flush with the other piece of baseboard, but on the

hinge side we might need to leave a small gap.

Depends on how the door actually opens with panels in place.

We could cut the base board at a mitered angle but what that means is that the horn will stick out past the edge of the door. This presents a hazard to someones toes and the horn itself. I propose a simple straight butt joint or shallow miter.

On the hinge side the base board sticks out less from the wall than the fabric panel, 3/4 versus 1 inch, so we can use a simple butt joint and it should swing open just fine.
 
#493 ·
HOW I SPENT THE MORNING


I figure we will need about 200 strips of 1 1/2 x 1/2 inch plywood to make D's fabric frames.

At 30 a sheet that means 7 sheets ripped. First I had Lowe's rip them in half for convenience.


Then on with it



 
#495 · (Edited)
HOW I SPENT THE MORNING

I figure we will need about 200 strips of 1 1/2 x 1/2 inch plywood to make D's fabric frames.
At 30 a sheet that means 7 sheets ripped. First I had Lowe's rip them in half for convenience.

Then on with it



Eep!

That is going to be a lot of panels! Is that just the 1/2 pieces for the red panels or is it ALL of the 1/2" strips?
 
#494 ·

Well done sir.
 
#499 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by BIGmouthinDC /forum/post/21066085


Dedication right there.
 
#501 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stinky Pinky /forum/post/21066239


Thank you for taking this picture, damelon. Really "closes the loop" for me on your soffit so now I'm going to blatantly steal the whole idea.

By the way, in that photo, if you look at the closest 3/4 "C" clip, that is a piece of wood blocking below it. At the 2nd clip you see the top of one of those 3" recessed lights. If you added more clips or use the clear rope light channeling you can make the rope light straighter and produce a more uniform light. I think because it sags a little is how the lighting effect varies so much on the ceiling.
 
#502 · (Edited)
Quote:Originally Posted by BIGmouthinDC

I hope all, how about we make the reds 49.45 tall instead of 49.5. That way I can just cut the 96ers in half. The blade is about an 1/8 inch.


Well that space will be made up for when fabric is wrapped around the panels, so we're good there!

By the way, went to that Sulley Carpet place today. A lot of crappy selections there! Where was the place on rte 28 that you talked about that was just up the road from me... the one where you had that red diamond pattern carpet (The one that has the big 2" or so diamonds). I want to go see that pattern in black.
(This One)


Also, I received the 3 carpet samples from the Shaw Contracting Group of those cool patterned gray/black carpets we showed. They are WAY too busy. Looks good in their photos, but not what I'd want in the theater.
 
#506 · (Edited)
So stopped by the carpet place and picked up a bunch of samples. A few of which I'm not even going to post because they are just not the right red.

So here is that "Desirable Statement" in both black and red. The black just doesn't work here, and I'm thinking the big diamonds of the red, although half of it matches color wise, will just be too much of a distracting pattern.





Then I picked up a few red samples of plush carpet. Each of these had sort of a base color with a highlight color of the same tone. I found this one, which seems to blend in with the column paint quite well. It looks even closer in person than in the photos.





I have now been "swayed" back. I have to agree with BIG, the red just looks better. Although it will have a lot more red than black now. I have to consider if I want to make the baseboards black instead of red if I go for red carpet. Though the carpet still does look good right against that column paint, and the highlighting does allow it to be separated.
 
#508 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by tbraden32 /forum/post/21068157


My vote is for black/gray carpet...even though I love red.

Even if I go with Black/Gray, I am not going to go with that one. There was a larger sample at the store and the pattern will be too much for me. There is another one I saw locally I might go with.
 
#509 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by damelon /forum/post/21068170


Even if I go with Black/Gray, I am not going to go with that one. There was a larger sample at the store and the pattern will be too much for me. There is another one I saw locally I might go with.

I do like the solid red, but what about plain ol' black. no pattern? or is that just too boring?


jim
 
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