A few days ago I went to listen for a new sub. I listened to the JL Audio f113. I was looking for the deep bass and the feeling of soundtrack in my chest, I mean I want to feel my chest get pounded, and my shirt and pants to shake on me.
This is the feeling I got with the f113.
Now I am reading on the SVS PB13-Ultra and since I cannot hear it at any dealership (at least in Montreal, Canada), I'm left with your comments on this sub. Will I get the same feeling with the PB13?
Paul
P.S. My room is about 12*9*35 ft and mainly listening movies there.
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Originally Posted by pdube /forum/post/21100653
Hi,
A few days ago I went to listen for a new sub. I listened to the JL Audio f113. I was looking for the deep bass and the feeling of soundtrack in my chest, I mean I want to feel my chest get pounded, and my shirt and pants to shake on me.
This is the feeling I got with the f113.
Now I am reading on the SVS PB13-Ultra and since I cannot hear it at any dealership (at least in Montreal, Canada), I'm left with your comments on this sub. Will I get the same feeling with the PB13?
Paul
P.S. My room is about 12*9*35 ft and mainly listening movies there.
I believe that Mark Seaton of Seaton Sound recently stated the LMS 5400 drivers were way back ordered. Maybe FunkyWaves has some available to them right now but then again, maybe not.
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I believe that Mark Seaton of Seaton Sound recently stated the the LMS 5400 drivers were way back ordered. Maybe FunkyWaves has them in stock but then again, maybe not.
One of questions the OP was asking was, is the Ultra 13 capable of chest pounding bass. I haven't heard the sub, but based upon the review by Audioholics and looking at the measurements, and from what I've read around here is that chest pounding bass comes mostly in the lower to midrange bass area, I would say, yes it is capable of chest pounding bass.
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Originally Posted by Auditor55 /forum/post/21100742
One of questions the OP was asking was, is the Ultra 13 capable of chest pounding bass. I haven't heard the sub, but based upon the review by Audioholics and looking at the measurements, and from what I've read around here is that chest pounding bass comes mostly in the lower to midrange bass area, I would say, yes it is capable of chest pounding bass.
That's still pretty steep ($3120 powered) when you can an Ultra 13 for 2,000. However it does beat the JL F113 at $3700 and its bigger and more powerful.
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That's still pretty steep ($3120 powered) when you can an Ultra 13 for 2,000. However it does beat the JL F113 at $3700 and its bigger and more powerful.
OK. That he did. That makes it comparably priced to the Funky Waves. Both are priced significantly higher than the PB-13.
Does anyone have any real world performance measurement of the Funky Waves sub? Unfortunately, since many of these subs can only be purchased over the internet, we only have measurements and owner opinions to go off of.
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Originally Posted by Auditor55 /forum/post/21100909
OK. That he did. That makes it comparably priced to the Funky Waves. Both are priced significantly higher than the PB-13.
Does anyone have any real world performance measurement of the Funky Waves sub? Unfortunately, since many of these subs can only be purchased over the internet, we only have measurements and owner opinions to go off of.
Yes. I meant something on the order of what Audioholics did with the PB-13. I like their approach, subjective listening test followed by and supported with objective test measurement results.
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Yes. I meant something on the order of what Audioholics did with the PB-13. I like their approach, subjective listening test followed by and supported with objective test measurement results.
I've had both in the same room at the same time. They are very comparable in output, with the SVS digging a bit deeper and the F113 (to me), being slightly better for music reproduction and perhaps having a bit more oomph above 50hz. I doubt most could tell the difference in a blind test outside of a few low notes in some movies.
Bottom line, if you have the space, go for the SVS and save the money. If space is your primary purchasing driver as it was for me, go for the F113.
Two very good subs - you won't be disappointed with either.
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I've had both in the same room at the same time. They are very comparable in output, with the SVS digging a bit deeper and the F113 (to me), being slightly better for music reproduction and perhaps having a bit more oomph above 50hz. I doubt most could tell the difference in a blind test outside of a few low notes in some movies.
Bottom line, if you have the space, go for the SVS and save the money. If space is your primary purchasing driver as it was for me, go for the F113.
Two very good subs - you won't be disappointed with either.
I, too, heard both (older BASH amped PB13) as duels in a side-by-side comparison. Unfortunately, it was too long ago and that particular thread is gone. I found them to be very close with the SVS a little better in output and the JLA a little better in SQ. At that time, there was a bigger price difference than there is now. So, I agree with what BFREEDMA says above. Also, if you want the best aesthetics, get the Fathom. The SVS is no slouch in the looks department, but the JLA is just gorgeous. But to get the best of it's appearance, you have to leave the grill off. With the grill on, it more or less looks like any small, gloss black sub. To me, the SVS looks better with the grill on.
And both will give you the CPB you're looking for with the SVS having a little better low end.
I have heard both at different times in different rooms, so I won't attempt to make a direct comparison, but yeah, the PB13 will definitely provide a good pounding.
Keep in mind that your room is fairly big (35' x 12'), and whether or not you get a PB13 or JL, you might eventually want to add another sub for serious pressurization of the room. Not sure if you'd be willing to spend another $3K for a second JL
I would think the Ported PB13 Ultra would be the clear choice due to the large room and movie usage. The Ported SVS subs are also very good with music which is icing in the cake. Take the money you save on the JL, and put it towards a second sub later on.
The measurements back up what bfreedma experienced between the svs and jl. The JL has more output above 40 and the SVS in the ported configurations has more output below 40hz. The TC Sounds does measure the best. It will give the most output just about everywhere, can handle the most EQ at low frequencies to match its output to the room and has the least distortion.
The size difference between the SVS and JL is pretty significant, so first I would decide if you have any size restrictions and what type of finish you want. This alone may make your decision for you.
Personally, this is how I would sum up these choices.
If you don't need the most output at low frequencies, but want a small sub and are uncomfortable buying a sub without seeing it or listening to it, go for the JL.
If you want to save some money or possibly get dual subs, gain some output down low over the JL and lose some output above 40hz and don't mind a larger sub go for the SVS.
If you want the most output, can handle a box larger than the JL and are willing to pay the most, go for the Funkywave 18.0.
To make things more complicated, two other top choices to look into would be the JTR Captivator and the Seaton Submersive HP.
I would suggest calling each company (SVS, Funk Audio, JTR and Seaton) and explain your situation and goals. A good conversation can sometimes help you figure out what sub best fits what you want.
I think it also depends on who you are getting them from.
I know Parts Express has some in stock. We had to pick up a pair for a custom project earlier this week. They shipped today.
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