Received my 5010 from Projector People last night.
I had a 8350 and the 5010 beats it hands down in black levels & sharpness. No contest.
*I still have the 8350 so I was able to do an A/B comparison. The 8350 does output a great picture for its price range.
Pixel Alignment:
*This is located under the Extended menu & not mentioned in the current manual.
**It appears that the European model may have the LCD pixel alignment hidden.
Here are the steps to access it.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=297
I played with the pixel alignment and here's how it works.
*My red was off about 1/2 pixel to the left. Other 2 panels where aligned with each other.
1. You first choose a panel color.
Either Red or Blue. Green can not be adjusted but it doesn't matter as it's used at the center point to move the other 2 panels.
2. You then adjust the panel in each of the four corners Vertically and Horizontally.
I believe the panel movement is in 1/20 of a pixel movement. It's definitely fine movement and a lot less than 1 pixel.
3. Then you will be prompted to select a section on the grid to finish the alignment.
I picked the worst red offset which was near the middle.
A "+" will be displayed at the grid allowing you to see the panel movement.
You can then select another location and align.
You can keep repeating this as needed.
Once done, I had virtually perfect convergence.
*Other view points at pixel alignment.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=307
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=1317
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=1342
**Detailed Alignment procedure.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=666
Focusing:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=670
Keystone:
I played with the keystone and it does seem to work well but you will lose a bit of sharpness/focus. Probably not noticeable in normal viewing. I recommend not using keystone and using the lens shift.
Iris:
I can't hear it 5-6 feet above my head but from 3-4 feet, you can hear a slight rumbling sound when it makes adjustments.
*This is during quiet passages and scenes change from light to dark or vise versa.
Otherwise, you won't hear it over normal audio.
It's not bothersome like the high pitch tone the Benq W6000 I had for a few weeks but seems to be a bit louder than my 8350.
If off though, the blacks look great. I basically do not "see" the black bars any more.
Fan:
The ECO mode is dead quiet.
The Normal mode is a little louder than my 8350 but sounds like a PC fan.
Measured -40db about 2 feet away using my iPad DB meter.
I do hear it in quiet/silent dialog.
Picture Quality:
PQ is great. I used Art/Mikes settings from projectorreviews & did some tweaking for now but I'm using Living Room mode to get more lumens.
I will do a full calibration later as I get some decent lamp hours.
With the extra lumens and contrast, you get a great picture with that "pop" of DLP.
Edit: I have switched to Natural mode. Living Room appears to have a red push & too bright for a bat cave.
Edit: 1/14/2013
Switched back to Living room mode
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1377321/o...me-cinema-5010-6010-thread/2790#post_22830363
Ceiling mount:
I haven't seen Chief or Peerless release an official mount yet for the 5010. Only the 3010.
I'm using the Peerless PRG-UNV mount.
I like it because I can mount it straight to the ceiling or add an extension pole later if needed.
http://www.peerlessmounts.com/dyn/Pr...3/u/t/av/15107
Other compatible mounts:
http://www.peerlessmounts.com/dyn/Products/BrowseProducts.aspx/av/15198
http://www.chiefmfg.com/Mount-Finder/EPSON/PowerLite Home Cinema 5010
Need a low profile ceiling mount
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1377321/o...me-cinema-5010-6010-thread/2190#post_22253647
Having issues with lens shift
*All Epson lens shift are pretty much the same design
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1283049
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============================================================
5010/6010 differences:
The 6010 includes all of the 5010 features plus:
Case is Black
2 Pairs of Epson 3D Glasses
THX Mode Pre-Calibrated
Two anamorphic lens modes (stretch and squeeze) — enables 2.35:1 anamorphic viewing with anamorphic lens(sold separately)
Chief Mount Included
3 Year Warranty
Cable Cover
Extra lamp Included
Reviews:
http://www.displaycalibrationonline...._epson5010.asp
http://www.projectorreviews.com/epso...5010/index.php
http://www.projectorcentral.com/epso...tor_review.htm
*EH-TW6100 (PowerLite 3020) Review
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1377321/o...me-cinema-5010-6010-thread/3060#post_23393002
Reviews of the RS45 and some notes comparing the 5010.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=1627
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=368
Measured Contrast
Using the Natural Mode, Low lamp after calibration
Long throw: 467 lumens and 6635:1 contrast
Short throw: 618 lumens and 3867:1 contrast
The auto-iris seems to provide a 3x multiple. I got just over 15,000:1 compared to about 5,000:1 native.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=188
And to compare, the JVC RS45.
The contrast you would expect under ordinary conditions is 17,660.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=1627
HP Screen anyone?
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1377321/o...me-cinema-5010-6010-thread/2160#post_22248538
Compatible 3D glasses
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1372529
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/s...61&foid=199263
Epson 3D glasses manual
http://a248.e.akamai.net/pix.crutchfield.com/Manuals/278/278AS3DG.PDF
Having issue with the Monster Max 3D glasses?
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1377321/o...me-cinema-5010-6010-thread/2760#post_22766037
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1377321/o...me-cinema-5010-6010-thread/1890#post_22091018
DIY Motorized lens shift, zoom & focus
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1401911
ND filter
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1377321/o...me-cinema-5010-6010-thread/2040#post_22161762
Epson LPE for better contrast
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1442399/e...-of-the-5010-5020-6010-6020-a-detailed-review
Does your unit have the latest FW?
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1399426
Check your FW version:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1377321/o...me-cinema-5010-6010-thread/2280#post_22289612
Epson 5010/6010 'Cinema filter Error', grinding noise, red light fix with pics
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/68-di...-error-grinding-noise-red-light-fix-pics.html
Manual
http://files.support.epson.com/pdf/p...plhc5010ug.pdf
Want enhanced sharpness and details?
Consider getting a Darbee
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1399154/darbee-vision-darblet/2160#post_22301803
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1377321/o...me-cinema-5010-6010-thread/2640#post_22550353
Good discussion on black levels
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1436767/the-truth-about-black-levels
AVS HD Calibration disc
http://www.avsforum.com/t/948496/avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration
.
I had a 8350 and the 5010 beats it hands down in black levels & sharpness. No contest.
*I still have the 8350 so I was able to do an A/B comparison. The 8350 does output a great picture for its price range.
Pixel Alignment:
*This is located under the Extended menu & not mentioned in the current manual.
**It appears that the European model may have the LCD pixel alignment hidden.
Here are the steps to access it.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=297
I played with the pixel alignment and here's how it works.
*My red was off about 1/2 pixel to the left. Other 2 panels where aligned with each other.
1. You first choose a panel color.
Either Red or Blue. Green can not be adjusted but it doesn't matter as it's used at the center point to move the other 2 panels.
2. You then adjust the panel in each of the four corners Vertically and Horizontally.
I believe the panel movement is in 1/20 of a pixel movement. It's definitely fine movement and a lot less than 1 pixel.
3. Then you will be prompted to select a section on the grid to finish the alignment.
I picked the worst red offset which was near the middle.
A "+" will be displayed at the grid allowing you to see the panel movement.
You can then select another location and align.
You can keep repeating this as needed.
Once done, I had virtually perfect convergence.
*Other view points at pixel alignment.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=307
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=1317
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=1342
**Detailed Alignment procedure.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=666
Focusing:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=670
Keystone:
I played with the keystone and it does seem to work well but you will lose a bit of sharpness/focus. Probably not noticeable in normal viewing. I recommend not using keystone and using the lens shift.
Iris:
I can't hear it 5-6 feet above my head but from 3-4 feet, you can hear a slight rumbling sound when it makes adjustments.
*This is during quiet passages and scenes change from light to dark or vise versa.
Otherwise, you won't hear it over normal audio.
It's not bothersome like the high pitch tone the Benq W6000 I had for a few weeks but seems to be a bit louder than my 8350.
If off though, the blacks look great. I basically do not "see" the black bars any more.
Fan:
The ECO mode is dead quiet.
The Normal mode is a little louder than my 8350 but sounds like a PC fan.
Measured -40db about 2 feet away using my iPad DB meter.
I do hear it in quiet/silent dialog.
Picture Quality:
PQ is great. I used Art/Mikes settings from projectorreviews & did some tweaking for now but I'm using Living Room mode to get more lumens.
I will do a full calibration later as I get some decent lamp hours.
With the extra lumens and contrast, you get a great picture with that "pop" of DLP.
Edit: I have switched to Natural mode. Living Room appears to have a red push & too bright for a bat cave.
Edit: 1/14/2013
Switched back to Living room mode
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1377321/o...me-cinema-5010-6010-thread/2790#post_22830363
Ceiling mount:
I haven't seen Chief or Peerless release an official mount yet for the 5010. Only the 3010.
I'm using the Peerless PRG-UNV mount.
I like it because I can mount it straight to the ceiling or add an extension pole later if needed.
http://www.peerlessmounts.com/dyn/Pr...3/u/t/av/15107
Other compatible mounts:
http://www.peerlessmounts.com/dyn/Products/BrowseProducts.aspx/av/15198
http://www.chiefmfg.com/Mount-Finder/EPSON/PowerLite Home Cinema 5010
Need a low profile ceiling mount
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1377321/o...me-cinema-5010-6010-thread/2190#post_22253647
Having issues with lens shift
*All Epson lens shift are pretty much the same design
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1283049
============================================================
============================================================
5010/6010 differences:
The 6010 includes all of the 5010 features plus:
Case is Black
2 Pairs of Epson 3D Glasses
THX Mode Pre-Calibrated
Two anamorphic lens modes (stretch and squeeze) — enables 2.35:1 anamorphic viewing with anamorphic lens(sold separately)
Chief Mount Included
3 Year Warranty
Cable Cover
Extra lamp Included
Reviews:
http://www.displaycalibrationonline...._epson5010.asp
http://www.projectorreviews.com/epso...5010/index.php
http://www.projectorcentral.com/epso...tor_review.htm
*EH-TW6100 (PowerLite 3020) Review
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1377321/o...me-cinema-5010-6010-thread/3060#post_23393002
Reviews of the RS45 and some notes comparing the 5010.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=1627
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=368
Measured Contrast
Using the Natural Mode, Low lamp after calibration
Long throw: 467 lumens and 6635:1 contrast
Short throw: 618 lumens and 3867:1 contrast
The auto-iris seems to provide a 3x multiple. I got just over 15,000:1 compared to about 5,000:1 native.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=188
And to compare, the JVC RS45.
The contrast you would expect under ordinary conditions is 17,660.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=1627
HP Screen anyone?
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1377321/o...me-cinema-5010-6010-thread/2160#post_22248538
Compatible 3D glasses
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1372529
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/s...61&foid=199263
Epson 3D glasses manual
http://a248.e.akamai.net/pix.crutchfield.com/Manuals/278/278AS3DG.PDF
Having issue with the Monster Max 3D glasses?
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1377321/o...me-cinema-5010-6010-thread/2760#post_22766037
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1377321/o...me-cinema-5010-6010-thread/1890#post_22091018
DIY Motorized lens shift, zoom & focus
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1401911
ND filter
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1377321/o...me-cinema-5010-6010-thread/2040#post_22161762
Epson LPE for better contrast
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1442399/e...-of-the-5010-5020-6010-6020-a-detailed-review
Does your unit have the latest FW?
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1399426
Check your FW version:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1377321/o...me-cinema-5010-6010-thread/2280#post_22289612
Epson 5010/6010 'Cinema filter Error', grinding noise, red light fix with pics
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/68-di...-error-grinding-noise-red-light-fix-pics.html
Manual
http://files.support.epson.com/pdf/p...plhc5010ug.pdf
Want enhanced sharpness and details?
Consider getting a Darbee
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1399154/darbee-vision-darblet/2160#post_22301803
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1377321/o...me-cinema-5010-6010-thread/2640#post_22550353
Good discussion on black levels
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1436767/the-truth-about-black-levels
AVS HD Calibration disc
http://www.avsforum.com/t/948496/avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration
.