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Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-26-2015, 03:55 PM
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Posted By slacker711
The 65EC9700 is tough to find but the price is...

The 65EC9700 is tough to find but the price is $2000 below the MSRP on LG's website and VE even throws in another $500 gift card.

I think the idea that prices would actually get closer to MSRP...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-26-2015, 10:13 AM
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Views: 62,997
Posted By slacker711
There was a $2000 discount off of MSRP on the...

There was a $2000 discount off of MSRP on the 65EC9300 at its debut.

I dont expect that much, but I think the 20% off MSRP is a decent guideline.

Do we know that the 55EC9300 is on close...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-26-2015, 06:47 AM
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Posted By slacker711
So 55" curved at $5499 MSRP and 65" curved at...

So 55" curved at $5499 MSRP and 65" curved at $8999 MSRP.

That is versus a listed priced of $11999 for the 65EC9700 and $3500 for the 55EC9300. Both of those sets are selling for about 20% below...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-25-2015, 01:57 PM
Replies: 406
Views: 10,860
Posted By slacker711
This is an interesting look at HDR from an...

This is an interesting look at HDR from an interview with a Senior VP from Sony.

https://pro.sony.com/bbsccms/assets/files/cat/mondisp/articles/HDR_X300_explained.pdf

The part that surprised...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-25-2015, 09:09 AM
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Posted By slacker711
What percentage of content on a new TV do you...

What percentage of content on a new TV do you think is going to be HDR?

What percentage of scenes are going to use HDR?

With a scene that is using HDR, what percentage of the screen is...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-25-2015, 06:47 AM
Replies: 153
Views: 6,264
Posted By slacker711
Epic fail on my part :o.

Epic fail on my part :o.
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-25-2015, 06:01 AM
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Views: 6,264
Posted By slacker711
FWIW, a report from a German website that...

FWIW, a report from a German website that Panasonic will debut their OLED's at IFA. The Google Translation doesnt indicate a source though simply that it was learned at Panasonic's recent television...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-24-2015, 01:59 PM
Replies: 406
Views: 10,860
Posted By slacker711
I dont think you are saying anything...

I dont think you are saying anything controversial, but you are missing the point. If LG matches the JS9500 pricing, they would still have zero chance of hitting their shipment targets. There just...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-23-2015, 12:37 PM
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Views: 62,997
Posted By slacker711
The original pre-order pricing for the 55EC9300...

The original pre-order pricing for the 55EC9300 was $4999 in late July before dropping to $3999 and actually debuting at $3500 at Best Buy in late August.

I dont know if it will follow that...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-19-2015, 05:42 AM
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Posted By slacker711
Here is rogo's 90% price cut target for OLED...

Here is rogo's 90% price cut target for OLED lighting. Still two years away which means that there is R&D work still to be done but this is the kind of pricing that starts to open up the market.
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Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-16-2015, 02:37 PM
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Posted By slacker711
LGD sold them at a loss last year and are going...

LGD sold them at a loss last year and are going to lose money on OLED's again this year.

Have you seen a price for the JS9500 series yet? The JS9000 is edge-lit and looks like it is going to be...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-14-2015, 11:37 AM
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Posted By slacker711
I might have used the wrong term since I wasnt...

I might have used the wrong term since I wasnt thinking of exterior lighting but rather lighting where both form and function matter. A high-end store or restaurant, corporate headquarters, hotel...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-14-2015, 10:36 AM
Replies: 11,830
Views: 1,138,598
Posted By slacker711
Yes, that is a prerequisite for OLED lighting to...

Yes, that is a prerequisite for OLED lighting to have a chance.

The reason that OLED lighting even has that chance is that much of the R&D needed for it to hit that kind of price reduction is...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-12-2015, 05:51 AM
Replies: 11,830
Views: 1,138,598
Posted By slacker711
It is a translation so you can take it with all...

It is a translation so you can take it with all of the normal caveats, but it seems that Hi-Mart (Korean version of Best Buy) stated that OLED television sales took 11% of their 55" and larger sales...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-10-2015, 06:46 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 941
Posted By slacker711
It would be great if this was for televisions but...

It would be great if this was for televisions but it is actually for flexible mobile OLED capacity...which is still pretty cool :)
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-10-2015, 03:58 PM
Replies: 11,830
Views: 1,138,598
Posted By slacker711
Cost of Quantum Dots... ...

Cost of Quantum Dots...

http://www.displaysearchblog.com/2015/02/the-price-of-qd-material-is-falling-but-not-enough/
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-08-2015, 09:50 PM
Replies: 1,219
Views: 68,941
Posted By slacker711
The number that matters is the 600,000 unit...

The number that matters is the 600,000 unit target.

FWIW, all 26,000 substrates are part of the M2 fab (now named E4). For LGD, it makes little sense to convert all of the capacity at once. ...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-08-2015, 05:26 PM
Replies: 11,830
Views: 1,138,598
Posted By slacker711
I was trying to say that LGD has already worked...

I was trying to say that LGD has already worked through the problems of manufacturing IGZO backplanes (not that printing impacts these yields). If printing becomes viable in late 2016, then LGD will...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-08-2015, 01:38 PM
Replies: 11,830
Views: 1,138,598
Posted By slacker711
They would be starting over on the printing side...

They would be starting over on the printing side of it but they will see the benefits of their yield improvement on the IGZO backplane. That isnt a small piece of the manufacturing puzzle for OLED's.
Forum: LCD Flat Panel Displays   02-05-2015, 07:21 AM
Replies: 1,392
Views: 42,126
Posted By slacker711
FWIW, the 55JS9000 and the 65JS9000 prices were...

FWIW, the 55JS9000 and the 65JS9000 prices were announced in Korea for 5.49M KRW ($5000) and 7.9M KRW ($7250) respectively. I'm not sure if that is list or retail though.

Google Translate...
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Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-05-2015, 07:02 AM
Replies: 1,437
Views: 62,997
Posted By slacker711
Some further context on these prices, the...

Some further context on these prices, the 55JS9000 and the 65JS9000 prices were announced in Korea for 5.49M KRW and 7.9M KRW respectively. I'm not sure if that is list or retail though.
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Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-03-2015, 08:07 AM
Replies: 62
Views: 3,094
Posted By slacker711
I think that a big stake in the ground is what...

I think that a big stake in the ground is what Tesla would do....and Qualcomm, and a few other big high-tech companies with the right culture.

I would have been very surprised by something like...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-02-2015, 06:10 PM
Replies: 62
Views: 3,094
Posted By slacker711
That seems awkwardly worded to me. Do they mean...

That seems awkwardly worded to me. Do they mean that a single YIELDjet unit costs the same as a vapor deposition chamber of the same generation? or that the total capex for a given capacity is the...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-01-2015, 10:42 PM
Replies: 62
Views: 3,094
Posted By slacker711
I tend to be skeptical about a dramatic increase...

I tend to be skeptical about a dramatic increase in yield based on printing. Samsung has never given their exact OLED yields, but they have hit cost parity with LTPS LCD's despite using a shadow...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-31-2015, 01:29 PM
Replies: 62
Views: 3,094
Posted By slacker711
Just to make sure we are on the same page, this...

Just to make sure we are on the same page, this isnt their third facility, but the 3rd phase of the ramp (1 was M1, 2 was M2 to 6K, and 3 is M2 to 26K).

They gave guidance that they are spending...
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