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Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-15-2014, 05:41 PM
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Posted By Kris Deering
You saw it Kris? ...Your take, please?...

You saw it Kris? ...Your take, please? http://www.avsforum.com//forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/QUOTE]

I enjoyed it a lot but it is a pretty polarizing type of film. Slow burn art house sci-fi...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-15-2014, 05:09 PM
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Posted By Kris Deering
Legends of Jazz, track 3 "The Panther"

Legends of Jazz, track 3 "The Panther"
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-15-2014, 03:32 PM
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Posted By Kris Deering
I was bummed that I didn't get the chance to go...

I was bummed that I didn't get the chance to go to the AVS meetup. Secrets was having its writer dinner at the exact same time. I go to most of the CEDIA's and a few of the CES's so I'm sure we'll...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-15-2014, 03:26 PM
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Posted By Kris Deering
Under the Skin sounds good already!

Under the Skin sounds good already!
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-15-2014, 03:24 PM
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Posted By Kris Deering
The only thing I remember about the Procella demo...

The only thing I remember about the Procella demo that stood out was the jazz clip. It sounded fantastic. I ordered the Blu-ray that was on the moment I left the booth. :D
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-15-2014, 03:20 PM
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Posted By Kris Deering
Outstanding post. And yes, if my question was...

Outstanding post. And yes, if my question was comparing the limitations of Auro to Atmos. Sorry I wasn't clear on that, I was referring to just channels in general, didn't mean to infer that I was...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-15-2014, 03:10 PM
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Posted By Kris Deering
I undertand this but you're talking about a...

I undertand this but you're talking about a situation when an array of speakers is treated as one channel (this happens all the time in theaters). At home this is rarely the case unless you are...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-15-2014, 03:02 PM
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Posted By Kris Deering
Except that the orchestra wasn't a live staged...

Except that the orchestra wasn't a live staged concert. The recording was done in a recording studio and was recorded as such, not like it was recorded from the audience perspective in a concert...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-15-2014, 01:12 PM
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Posted By Kris Deering
So THIS is where I have a problem. So if an audio...

So THIS is where I have a problem. So if an audio format decides to use channels instead of objects do you honestly think the same exact soundtrack couldn't be done with the exact same speaker...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-15-2014, 01:04 PM
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Posted By Kris Deering
I completely understand. I don't rebuy movies I...

I completely understand. I don't rebuy movies I don't want to watch because they have a new audio format I want to try out in home (oh wait, I do!! :p). There are some others that were mixed for Auro...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-15-2014, 01:01 PM
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Posted By Kris Deering
No, and that was one of the demos that was done...

No, and that was one of the demos that was done almost consistently with every booth. Only the one with the rain and stuff was done more.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-15-2014, 11:50 AM
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Posted By Kris Deering
It will image behind if there is little to none...

It will image behind if there is little to none of the same information in the front channels balancing the position in the space. None of this is hard. But we can play the what if all day....
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-15-2014, 10:43 AM
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Posted By Kris Deering
I agree, but if an object was meant to be...

I agree, but if an object was meant to be directly above the listener and you only have a 5.1 system you can still render an object above the listener if the surrounds are higher up and the "sound"...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-15-2014, 10:26 AM
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Posted By Kris Deering
I don't see a disagreement. The Dolby booth...

I don't see a disagreement. The Dolby booth didn't sound good (as in sound quality) to me. I think the speakers and the room didn't jive well from a quality standpoint. But it was better at "Atmos"...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-15-2014, 10:20 AM
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Posted By Kris Deering
Actually most of the demos were relying heavily...

Actually most of the demos were relying heavily on the Dolby Atmos trailers. There were only three short movie clips used but sometimes demos would only use one of them (and the movie clips were...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-15-2014, 10:13 AM
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Posted By Kris Deering
I don't think there is a format war to win...

I don't think there is a format war to win honestly. We've always had two different types of audio tracks coexisting peacefully so there is no reason we can't continue to do that. The problem becomes...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-15-2014, 09:16 AM
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Posted By Kris Deering
Funny you mention this. Ericglo said the same...

Funny you mention this. Ericglo said the same thing about it just before we went in. I didn't have the "sweet spot" but there were only 5 seats tightly packed together. I felt that the surrounds were...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-15-2014, 09:08 AM
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Posted By Kris Deering
All I was told was some Dreamworks titles will be...

All I was told was some Dreamworks titles will be re-issued with Auro soundtracks on Blu-ray by the end of this year. Based on the demos I would assume Turbo, Rise of the Guardians and The Croods as...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-15-2014, 09:02 AM
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Posted By Kris Deering
Interesting that you say that. When I attended a...

Interesting that you say that. When I attended a private Dolby demo they said that all the mixing facilities that are doing the Blu-ray mixes use a 7.1.4 layout. While I realize that Atmos is...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-15-2014, 08:56 AM
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Posted By Kris Deering
I think you meant that they said the height...

I think you meant that they said the height objects were lossy, not lossless. It is my understanding that everything in an Atmos mix is lossless, but I don't know that for sure.

Auro uses PCM...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-15-2014, 08:54 AM
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Posted By Kris Deering
Most of the CEDIA demos were small. The Dolby one...

Most of the CEDIA demos were small. The Dolby one specifically was a bit large (but it was one of the least impressive). The Pioneer one was 5 seats in a room off the showfloor. I was surprised that...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-15-2014, 08:06 AM
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Posted By Kris Deering
Please understand Keith that I am in no way...

Please understand Keith that I am in no way trying to say anything to discredit your experience. What you heard in London was in a VASTLY different type of room than what is used at CEDIA. CEDIA is...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-15-2014, 06:47 AM
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Posted By Kris Deering
Not sure on this. Dolby makes it a point to say...

Not sure on this. Dolby makes it a point to say that absolutely NOTHING is left out of the mix if you go down to a 5.1 mix. No object is left behind sort of speak. Obviously it is mixed down into the...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-15-2014, 06:36 AM
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Posted By Kris Deering
Phasing tricks are nothing new Keith and honestly...

Phasing tricks are nothing new Keith and honestly if Dolby was trying to do individual objects that appear to float right next to your head they would be doing that with their demo trailers. Theory...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-14-2014, 09:57 PM
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Posted By Kris Deering
Funny you mention this Mark. I took the Atmos...

Funny you mention this Mark. I took the Atmos demo Blu-ray home and played it last night and then to a dealer friend of mine tonight. In my 5.1 setup I thought it was better than anything I heard at...
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