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Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-20-2014, 01:30 PM
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Posted By batpig
Honestly, I don't REALLY know anything meaningful...

Honestly, I don't REALLY know anything meaningful about this because I'm not an engineer. But AIUI the "DSP has 16 channel outputs" refers to the ATMOS processing chip, i.e. it could theoretically...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-20-2014, 11:53 AM
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Posted By batpig
Reference level (0dB on the relative scale or 80...

Reference level (0dB on the relative scale or 80 on the number scale) is defined as full scale signal peaking at 105dB in the main channels, 115dB in the LFE channel. Since you are 10dB below...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-20-2014, 11:45 AM
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Posted By batpig
Welcome to the party. The pre/pro version is...

Welcome to the party. The pre/pro version is always more expensive, you pay a huge premium for the luxury of them stripping out the amps and putting in XLR connections ;) for example in the...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-20-2014, 11:43 AM
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Posted By batpig
My bad, yes, I forgot the 7702 is basically the...

My bad, yes, I forgot the 7702 is basically the pre/pro version of the 7009 which is based on the same platform as the X4100, not the 5200.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-20-2014, 11:20 AM
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Posted By batpig
No, the 7702 is basically the prepro version of...

No, the 7702 is basically the prepro version of the Denon 5200, whereas the 8802 is the sister model to the Denon 7200.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-20-2014, 10:42 AM
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Posted By batpig
This is pure speculation on my part, but...

This is pure speculation on my part, but considering that we know the current consumer Atmos DSP chips have 16 outputs, it seems like a natural expansion to 15.1ch output (i.e. 9.1.6) is likely,...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-20-2014, 08:47 AM
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Posted By batpig
Do you mean the sub setting in the Amp Assigm...

Do you mean the sub setting in the Amp Assigm interface? So then you are still talking about drilling down to the speaker config and editing the layout?
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-20-2014, 07:56 AM
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Posted By batpig
What do you mean by "specifically selected"? Is...

What do you mean by "specifically selected"? Is there a parameter setting for Atmos surround mode that lets you override 7.1.4 mode and switch to 9.1.2 mode when you have a 13ch setup? Or do you mean...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-20-2014, 07:40 AM
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Posted By batpig
Front Wides are active when Atmos track is...

Front Wides are active when Atmos track is playing and only inactive when using DSU.[/QUOTE]

No JD - Selden is 100% correct in the context of the post which is specifically answering a question...
Forum: Speakers   11-19-2014, 06:44 PM
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Posted By batpig
Do the back speakers have to be wall mounted too?...

Do the back speakers have to be wall mounted too? You could use your current pair of V2.0Ri as side surround and then get a traditional pair of bookshelf (or tower) speakers for back surround.
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Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-19-2014, 04:34 PM
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Posted By batpig
I hear where you are coming from, but I have to...

I hear where you are coming from, but I have to say that a lot of modern TV shows have exceeded most movies in terms of writing, acting, production value, etc. And I love the ability to follow the...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-19-2014, 03:34 PM
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Posted By batpig
Yeah, that's probalby the root issue with the...

Yeah, that's probalby the root issue with the inconsistency of results. What you could do is make the first mic position (where levels and delays are set) as close as possible to ear level an then...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-19-2014, 01:58 PM
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Posted By batpig
Basically, what you want to avoid is the couch...

Basically, what you want to avoid is the couch back blocking the path of sound from the speaker to the mic. In other words you want "line of sight" between each speaker and mic for the measurements,...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-19-2014, 12:12 PM
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Posted By batpig
Yes, you just need an external phono pre-amp that...

Yes, you just need an external phono pre-amp that will equalize the signal properly, and then outputs it as a standard RCA stereo signal that you can plug into any input you want. Some turntables...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-19-2014, 11:54 AM
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Posted By batpig
I was referring to the five pairs of speaker...

I was referring to the five pairs of speaker locations:

Front Height
Top Front
Top Middle
Top Rear
Rear Height

You can select any 2 of these 5 pairs except for adjacent pairs. Which...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-19-2014, 11:49 AM
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Posted By batpig
Not if it's movie content which is natively 24p. ...

Not if it's movie content which is natively 24p. Resolution and framerate are separate things.

4k/60 content (if it ever comes) would probably be things like video games, maybe some broadcast TV....
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-19-2014, 11:16 AM
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Posted By batpig
Yes, that is the "standard" layout which Dolby...

Yes, that is the "standard" layout which Dolby recommends as ideal. Although the four overheads don't have to be TF+TR, they can be any 2 of the 5 possible pairs (as long as they are non-adjacent...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-19-2014, 10:33 AM
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Posted By batpig
Also, just to be 100% clear here, the 11.1ch max...

Also, just to be 100% clear here, the 11.1ch max simultaneous limit is absolute. There seems to be some confusion above that 13ch simultaneous output is possible. It's not.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-18-2014, 08:47 PM
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Posted By batpig
Yes for Denon and Marantz models with network...

Yes for Denon and Marantz models with network functionality. Although it take about 10 minutes to save or load a config file from the networkes computer.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-18-2014, 04:17 PM
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Posted By batpig
I think the confusion is the imprecise use of the...

I think the confusion is the imprecise use of the word "loudness". He was intending it to mean "SPL increase" (as implied by the use of the phrase "3dB increase in") and you were thinking of it in...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-18-2014, 01:53 PM
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Posted By batpig
Did someone reference you specifically? ...

Did someone reference you specifically? Measured, reasoned reluctance is one thing -- it's certainly understandable why someone who is very satifisfied with their current setup (whether 5.1, 7.1,...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-18-2014, 01:46 PM
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Posted By batpig
Right, I just made up a number for illustrative...

Right, I just made up a number for illustrative purposes.

The important part is the exponential nature and how you can very quickly go from plenty of power to not enough power as you approach...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-18-2014, 01:30 PM
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Posted By batpig
Read what he wrote again: 3dB increase =...

Read what he wrote again: 3dB increase = approximately double the POWER. Not double the loudness (which as you correctly note is generally thought of as ~10dB increase in SPL).

So, in other...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-18-2014, 01:25 PM
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Posted By batpig
Sorry, I wasn't taking a jab at you, rather I was...

Sorry, I wasn't taking a jab at you, rather I was jokingly mocking the easy dismissal of these modules based upon a photograph.

Don't you already have an Atmos setup with "fake" modules? You...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-18-2014, 01:02 PM
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Posted By batpig
Or, we could take the sensible approach of...

Or, we could take the sensible approach of actually testing them out and seeing how they perform and not making assumptions and dismissing them based upon limited information.

For now, I'll choose...
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