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Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-23-2017, 03:42 PM
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The pricing is dumb, but even dumber is how it...

The pricing is dumb, but even dumber is how it was done. This is the second time that they leaked prices that were lower than the final prices. That is just a painfully stupid way to handle the...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-21-2017, 06:41 PM
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Posted By slacker711
Weird. Amazon doesnt list the 65C7P but it...

Weird.

Amazon doesnt list the 65C7P but it has the 65E7P at $4999.
...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-21-2017, 08:32 AM
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Posted By slacker711
Are you talking about the 65C7P? I'm not sure...

Are you talking about the 65C7P? I'm not sure because it is listed at $3999. The 65E7 is $4999 but the 65E6 never hit the prices you listed at Amazon/Best Buy.

I dont think it is realistic to...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-17-2017, 06:47 AM
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Posted By slacker711
This is going to be an important dynamic going...

This is going to be an important dynamic going forward. I doubt that Samsung Electronics was expecting to price their QLED displays quite as high as they did. Do they proceed with their 7-2...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-11-2017, 06:03 AM
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Posted By slacker711
There is a decent chance that we will get that in...

There is a decent chance that we will get that in mobile OLED's where the Chinese are throwing money at the sector in the hope of catching Samsung. Combine that with Apple likely 2nd sourcing their...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-08-2017, 04:29 PM
Replies: 408
Views: 16,833
Posted By slacker711
The Q8 has more zones than the Q7. ...

The Q8 has more zones than the Q7.

https://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-qled-tvs-on-sale-starting-at-2500-that-seems-way-too-expensive/
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-07-2017, 07:27 AM
Replies: 408
Views: 16,833
Posted By slacker711
The problem is the point of diminishing returns. ...

The problem is the point of diminishing returns. OLED's added quite a bit of value to picture quality but they were selling in the thousands of units until they brought the price down close to the...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-07-2017, 05:57 AM
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Views: 16,833
Posted By slacker711
Samsung needs to lower prices if they want to...

Samsung needs to lower prices if they want to maintain share on the high-end. They were absolutely dominant in this segment two years ago with a 50% share. The roles are now reversed and LG has a...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-06-2017, 06:35 PM
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Posted By slacker711
Another factor is simply the current tight supply...

Another factor is simply the current tight supply of LCD's across the industry. Panel pricing has been going up for about six months and supply is expected to be tight for much of 2017. LGD and...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-06-2017, 03:23 PM
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Posted By slacker711
Both the 65KS9800 and the 65Z9D were very bright...

Both the 65KS9800 and the 65Z9D were very bright and colorful and it didnt seem to help their sales much at all. Right now there doesnt seem to be much of a market for high-end televisions at prices...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-06-2017, 02:00 PM
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Posted By slacker711
The etnews is reporing that industry sources are...

The etnews is reporing that industry sources are saying that LGD will go with Gen 10 substrates for the P10 fab.

http://english.etnews.com/20170207200001
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   02-06-2017, 07:17 AM
Replies: 408
Views: 16,833
Posted By slacker711
I think we have the definitive answer of why...

I think we have the definitive answer of why Samsung isnt offering a QLED FALD. Can you imagine the price?

Pricing the 65KS9800 at the same price as the B6 was a disaster and I doubt that it is...
Forum: LCD Flat Panel Displays   02-06-2017, 05:43 AM
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Views: 82,293
Posted By slacker711
Samsung 2017 QLED LCD TV pricing Q7 flat -...

Samsung 2017 QLED LCD TV pricing

Q7 flat - Q7F:
55” $2,499.99
65” $3,499.99
75” $5,999.99

Q8 curved – Q8C:
55” $3,499.99
65” $4,499.99
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-25-2017, 07:45 AM
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Posted By slacker711
For reference, the 55B/C6P launched for $3999...

For reference, the 55B/C6P launched for $3999 before dropping to $2999 a month later. There is always an early adopter tax.
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-23-2017, 06:56 AM
Replies: 408
Views: 16,833
Posted By slacker711
Thankfully true. On a variety of topics, Rogo...

Thankfully true. On a variety of topics, Rogo has been far more accurate than the analysts.
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-23-2017, 06:38 AM
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Posted By slacker711
FWIW, the first page of the paper you posted. ...

FWIW, the first page of the paper you posted.
...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-18-2017, 12:36 PM
Replies: 452
Views: 13,153
Posted By slacker711
Worrying about brightness at 100% APL is like...

Worrying about brightness at 100% APL is like worrying about your car's fuel efficiency at 140mph. Nobody should care. The relevant numbers are all below 80% and the ones that matter to the vast...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-13-2017, 03:16 PM
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Posted By slacker711
Output math. So if output is split 50/50...

Output math.

So if output is split 50/50 between 55" and 65" displays and both panels had an 85% yield (likely too optimistic)....

34,000 substrates x 6 panels x 1/3 of production x .85 =...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-12-2017, 06:20 AM
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Views: 802
Posted By slacker711
The source article in French appears to only...

The source article in French appears to only mention color shift with respect to angle.
...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-11-2017, 06:23 AM
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Posted By slacker711
Only marginally relevant, but the Japanese press...

Only marginally relevant, but the Japanese press is reporting that Toshiba is going to launch OLED TV's in the Japanese market in March....supplied by LGD.
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-10-2017, 08:34 AM
Replies: 408
Views: 16,833
Posted By slacker711
The most likely source of improvement is new...

The most likely source of improvement is new emitter materials. A more efficient or longer lifetime for blue as well as materials with narrower emissions and coordinates closer to rec2020 would all...
Forum: LCD Flat Panel Displays   01-09-2017, 03:57 PM
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Views: 82,293
Posted By slacker711
I was actually referring to something a bit...

I was actually referring to something a bit different. If you take an OLED and LCD and have half of each screen taken up by a white stripe and the other half left black, the perceived brightness of...
Forum: LCD Flat Panel Displays   01-09-2017, 03:24 PM
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Views: 82,293
Posted By slacker711
That is what I thought the standard was as well...

That is what I thought the standard was as well but the tweets seem to be indicating that it is measured against an absolute 1000 nit standard. If so, 67% is a good number for the LG OLED's. It...
Forum: LCD Flat Panel Displays   01-09-2017, 12:36 PM
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Views: 82,293
Posted By slacker711
If this is a metric that is measured from zero to...

If this is a metric that is measured from zero to 1000 nits, then 67% coverage is great for the OLED's. The maximum luminance on most of these sets is around 700 nits so I would have expected color...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   01-09-2017, 11:52 AM
Replies: 408
Views: 16,833
Posted By slacker711
How much does all of the added complexity of this...

How much does all of the added complexity of this year's models cost? They are using a new metal coating on the quantum dots, have three anti-reflective layers, have increased the complexity of the...
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