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Forum: Local HDTV Info and Reception   02-22-2017, 12:27 PM
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Posted By nsa1062
Thanks. If WBNX were to go to low-V, they...

Thanks.

If WBNX were to go to low-V, they would only have 4.77kW? Am I reading this correctly? WKYC had 9 or 10 kw when they were on Low-V and their reception was still terrible.
Forum: Local HDTV Info and Reception   02-22-2017, 10:59 AM
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Very interesting, thanks. So this is where a...

Very interesting, thanks.

So this is where a particular channel COULD go not considering other stations on co- and adjacent- channels?
Forum: Local HDTV Info and Reception   02-22-2017, 10:50 AM
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Posted By nsa1062
The best repack solution would be to move CFPL to...

The best repack solution would be to move CFPL to RF11, and keep WOIO/WUAB on RF10. Then the closest RF10's to Cleveland are Lansing and Morgantown WV. Then WOIO could probably increase power and get...
Forum: Local HDTV Info and Reception   02-22-2017, 10:39 AM
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Posted By nsa1062
Agreed. Plus they are the much stronger of the...

Agreed. Plus they are the much stronger of the two "netlet" stations so I doubt they are going anywhere. Hope they don't go to Low-V. I doubt there is any place to put another Hi-V in the area.
Forum: Local HDTV Info and Reception   02-22-2017, 10:36 AM
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WBNX could go to 16 between WKYC and WEWS. I am...

WBNX could go to 16 between WKYC and WEWS. I am assuming that the Retro stations sell and go off the air (or channel-share with someone else.

Or to 27 if WVIZ stays on 26. I am guessing that 25...
Forum: Local HDTV Info and Reception   02-22-2017, 10:34 AM
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Posted By nsa1062
The Plain Dealer article specifically said that...

The Plain Dealer article specifically said that they sold the WUAB transmitter and that WUAB will be moving to WOIO's transmitter.

That means RF28 is going away and WUAB/Bounce/Grit will become...
Forum: Local HDTV Info and Reception   02-20-2017, 06:48 PM
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Posted By nsa1062
The plug probably won't be pulled until the...

The plug probably won't be pulled until the channel moves are done in this area. It sounded from that reply from WEAO that it won't be for 2 years (there are 10 repack phases over 3 years)
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Forum: Local HDTV Info and Reception   02-20-2017, 06:40 PM
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Posted By nsa1062
Depends on how the channel moves are coordinated...

Depends on how the channel moves are coordinated with the surrounding markets. I would expect all the LP's/translators to be forced off as the repack will be enough of a nightmare without having to...
Forum: Local HDTV Info and Reception   02-20-2017, 05:39 PM
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Posted By nsa1062
Not necessarily, they could be repacked to...

Not necessarily, they could be repacked to another channel. But knowing how cheap the owners of W16DO/WAOH are I would be shocked if they didn't sell off. Both stations are Class A.

WOIO's...
Forum: Local HDTV Info and Reception   02-20-2017, 01:32 PM
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Posted By nsa1062
When WKYC was on RF2 it would be completely...

When WKYC was on RF2 it would be completely unwatchable when there was a thunderstorm within 50 miles.

I assume the cable companies would have some type of direct feed and not depend on OTA...
Forum: Local HDTV Info and Reception   02-20-2017, 12:59 PM
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Posted By nsa1062
Very good news. Was worried that they might sell...

Very good news. Was worried that they might sell one or both stations.
Forum: Local HDTV Info and Reception   02-20-2017, 12:57 PM
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Posted By nsa1062
Also if WEAO is going to 24 that implies that...

Also if WEAO is going to 24 that implies that someone in Akron is staying on 23, either WVPX, or WVPX channel-sharing (with likely co-located WDLI), or WVPX sells and one of the two religious...
Forum: Local HDTV Info and Reception   02-20-2017, 12:50 PM
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Posted By nsa1062
Hope this is the case. Where are you seeing this...

Hope this is the case. Where are you seeing this on their website?
Forum: Local HDTV Info and Reception   02-20-2017, 12:48 PM
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Posted By nsa1062
Could a Cleveland low power go on 18? Then...

Could a Cleveland low power go on 18?

Then 15-16-17-19-20 for WEWS-WQHS-WKYC-WVIZ-WBNX ?

EDIT: Just remembered that WVIZ's antenna is stacked on top of WKYC's on the same tower. Is there any...
Forum: Local HDTV Info and Reception   02-20-2017, 12:44 PM
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Posted By nsa1062
WEWS-WQHS-WKYC-WBNX-WVIZ could be bunched...

WEWS-WQHS-WKYC-WBNX-WVIZ could be bunched together on 15-19, assuming WQHS stays on the air. A couple stations in Ontario might need to be moved.

Can WTAE be adjacent to WNEO? Would think they...
Forum: Local HDTV Info and Reception   02-18-2017, 10:08 PM
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Posted By nsa1062
Interesting article on channel sharing and...

Interesting article on channel sharing and stat-mux encoders (though its a couple years old)

They tested up to 3(!) HD's on a single stream, as well as 2HDs and up to 4SDs.
...
Forum: Local HDTV Info and Reception   02-17-2017, 09:33 PM
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Posted By nsa1062
It does 960x720p (vs typical 1280x720p) - that...

It does 960x720p (vs typical 1280x720p) - that would be one way to save bandwidth on WUAB :)

http://www.evertz.com/products/3480TXE-ATSC

Wonder why they don't give the price :)
Forum: Local HDTV Info and Reception   02-17-2017, 09:21 PM
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Posted By nsa1062
I would imagine Univision uses the same encoder...

I would imagine Univision uses the same encoder for all their markets where they do 2 1080i + 2 480i.
Forum: Local HDTV Info and Reception   02-17-2017, 09:14 PM
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Posted By nsa1062
Really surprised that they didn't sell one of the...

Really surprised that they didn't sell one of the Toledo ones. Detroit/Toledo/Windsor is really crowded, you would think the auction prices would be really high there.

I believe most of their...
Forum: Local HDTV Info and Reception   02-17-2017, 09:04 PM
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Posted By nsa1062
I don't believe 720i is an ATSC supported format....

I don't believe 720i is an ATSC supported format. I hope they don't drop CBS to 720p.

The article mentions the encoders Univision uses (Harmonic Electra 9200) and says this one (the Evertz one)...
Forum: Local HDTV Info and Reception   02-17-2017, 07:24 PM
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Posted By nsa1062
This article claims this encoder can do 2 1080i's...

This article claims this encoder can do 2 1080i's and 4 SD's on one RF channel (which is more than WOIO/WUAB with all their subs) with what they claim are good results.
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Forum: Local HDTV Info and Reception   02-17-2017, 06:48 PM
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Posted By nsa1062
Good point. Do you think MyNet is long for this...

Good point. Do you think MyNet is long for this world? (since it is owned by Fox and we know they made over $300M presumably selling their NYC/LA/Chicago/etc. MyNet duopoly stations)
Forum: Local HDTV Info and Reception   02-17-2017, 06:36 PM
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Posted By nsa1062
WUAB (owned by UA) and WKBF (owned by Kaiser,...

WUAB (owned by UA) and WKBF (owned by Kaiser, later Kaiser/Field) were completely separate (other than sharing the same TX tower) until 1975 when Kaiser/Field shut down WKBF and turned its license...
Forum: Local HDTV Info and Reception   02-17-2017, 12:21 PM
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Posted By nsa1062
The least they could do after this windfall is...

The least they could do after this windfall is upgrade their encoder (then the PQ might still not be very good but won't be terrible and maybe they can keep Grit), but knowing Raycom they won't...
Forum: Local HDTV Info and Reception   02-17-2017, 11:06 AM
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Posted By nsa1062
There will be at least a few UHF channels after...

There will be at least a few UHF channels after the repack used in nearby markets like Pittsburgh or Detroit where you could put a translator or LPTV in Cleveland.

And as Andrew said, it's not...
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