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Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   05-23-2017, 04:24 AM
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Posted By jong1
Yes. Obviously it's not visible when...

Yes.

Obviously it's not visible when watching something from the TV Tuner or TV a TV app, where audio is going from the TV to the AVR via ARC or optical out. But for all AVR inputs going to the TV...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   05-21-2017, 12:42 AM
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Posted By jong1
There have been several firmware upates to the...

There have been several firmware upates to the 2016 models already and Yamaha have promised an update to support HLG and Dolby Vision passthrough...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   05-20-2017, 12:40 PM
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Posted By jong1
Sky are currently broadcasting all Premier League...

Sky are currently broadcasting all Premier League football and Formula 1 in 4K. Cricket to follow this summer. A few years ago they tried (and have now abandoned!) 3D football and golf. Pretty sure...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   05-20-2017, 11:48 AM
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Posted By jong1
The BBC was the joint developer of HLG with NHK...

The BBC was the joint developer of HLG with NHK of Japan (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_Log-Gamma). They already have a pilot version of their streaming player, iPlayer, that uses HLG (about...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   05-20-2017, 09:44 AM
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Posted By jong1
HLG is the only current HDR standard suitable for...

HLG is the only current HDR standard suitable for live broadcast, including over current broadcast infrastructure, and that can be broadcast alongside SDR, so old regular TVs are unaffected.

If...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   05-20-2017, 06:19 AM
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Posted By jong1
You should start with the amp in Mode 2, not Mode...

You should start with the amp in Mode 2, not Mode 1. Mode 2 will not stop things working. In fact, it's specifically there to make things work when your cable cannot support full speed HDMI 2.0. Mode...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   05-18-2017, 11:58 PM
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Posted By jong1
Netflix specifically (but potentially other apps)...

Netflix specifically (but potentially other apps) does not offer 5.1 audio unless Optical/HDMI ARC is selected.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   05-18-2017, 09:47 AM
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Posted By jong1
Yeah, personally, given the quality of the DACs...

Yeah, personally, given the quality of the DACs already and few I guess will use the XLR inputs I find that a small upgrade, but others might feel differently.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   05-18-2017, 06:46 AM
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Posted By jong1
From what I have seen (and I'm sure I have missed...

From what I have seen (and I'm sure I have missed some subtlety!) the 1070 and 2070 are getting quite a step up with improved DSP, but the changes to the 3060 are very modest (3060 already has the...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   05-18-2017, 03:16 AM
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Posted By jong1
Yes, when watching apps on your LG TV you will...

Yes, when watching apps on your LG TV you will need to change the input on your AVR to whatever input your signal from the TV is using. There will be one setup for ARC (check your AVR manual) or you...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   05-17-2017, 07:58 AM
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Posted By jong1
Yep :), that's what I meant which is clear if you...

Yep :), that's what I meant which is clear if you read the rest of the discussion. In order to get the increased dynamic range without banding you need more than 8-bits and all the standards for HDR...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   05-17-2017, 05:08 AM
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Posted By jong1
I think that's a fair observation. Blu-ray Media...

I think that's a fair observation. Blu-ray Media is normally graded on @100-120nits monitors. Cinema is often much lower, it's true. People's expectations on their new super bright TVs are somewhat...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   05-17-2017, 12:38 AM
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Posted By jong1
For SDR, short of doing a full calibration, "ISF...

For SDR, short of doing a full calibration, "ISF Dark" is pretty universally thought a good starting point. From there try the following changes:

Contrast: 80-85
OLED Light: ~50 (for viewing in a...
Forum: HDMI Q&A - The One Connector World   05-16-2017, 01:15 PM
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Posted By jong1
Yeah, I realised RUIPRO were fiber, but somehow...

Yeah, I realised RUIPRO were fiber, but somehow missed that about the Monoprice.
Forum: HDMI Q&A - The One Connector World   05-16-2017, 12:19 PM
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Posted By jong1
I thought there must be black magic in those...

I thought there must be black magic in those cables, but had never looked at their spec and thought they were electrical. Now I see they too are fiber and it all makes sense :)
Forum: HDMI Q&A - The One Connector World   05-16-2017, 10:04 AM
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Posted By jong1
The Celerity cable is pretty thin. Dont know...

The Celerity cable is pretty thin. Dont know about the RUIPRO.
Forum: HDMI Q&A - The One Connector World   05-15-2017, 12:17 AM
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Posted By jong1
It's this kind of thing that is the biggest...

It's this kind of thing that is the biggest problem. Most people are only interested in video and all commercial video is natively 4:2:0. Most HDR movies are 4K/24 10-bit, so actually don't need to...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   05-14-2017, 11:22 AM
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Posted By jong1
I guess we are running out of ways of arguing...

I guess we are running out of ways of arguing this and others are probably getting bored, but, in summary, there is no standard for 8-bit HDR for the LG to 'fail' at. The sets supports or intends to...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   05-14-2017, 04:46 AM
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Posted By jong1
Sorry you are wrong. Sure it would be possible to...

Sorry you are wrong. Sure it would be possible to do some form of HDR in 8-bit by stretching the gap between each step and, with PQ (Perceptual Quantisation), it would not even be as bad as if you...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   05-14-2017, 12:55 AM
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Posted By jong1
Well I'm sure some sort of HDR might be possible...

Well I'm sure some sort of HDR might be possible 8-bit but all the current standards are 10-bit+ (see the Wikipedia article I linked). The increased bit depth is needed for the increased dynamic...
Forum: HDMI Q&A - The One Connector World   05-14-2017, 12:33 AM
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Posted By jong1
Fantastic Beasts (24 fps) will only need 8.9 Gbps...

Fantastic Beasts (24 fps) will only need 8.9 Gbps (half the max) even using 4:2:2 12-bit, which is why it is so important to make sure you use the right source material and the right video mode when...
Forum: HDMI Q&A - The One Connector World   05-13-2017, 02:04 PM
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Posted By jong1
For Long Walk, as in Arrow-AV's test, to fully...

For Long Walk, as in Arrow-AV's test, to fully test your system you need to set the Oppo to output 4:2:2 12-bit.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   05-12-2017, 05:09 AM
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Posted By jong1
Yep, it's a good point and you were right to pick...

Yep, it's a good point and you were right to pick me up on it :)
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   05-12-2017, 04:34 AM
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Posted By jong1
You are right to point out that DD+ over ARC does...

You are right to point out that DD+ over ARC does give it an advantage over optical in some implementations. I should have mentioned that.

But it is still true that "Current ARC" is s/pdif over...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   05-12-2017, 03:14 AM
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Posted By jong1
Actually current ARC is s/pdif over HDMI and it...

Actually current ARC is s/pdif over HDMI and it is s/pdif that can do DD+ at certain bitrates. So, in principle, DD+ is possible over optical in the same way.

And true HD audio formats are still...
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