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Forum: Speakers   08-23-2014, 08:33 AM
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Posted By AcuDefTechGuy
Wait, so why are you thinking of selling your...

Wait, so why are you thinking of selling your 802D2 to get in-walls?

A friend of mine is a dealer/ custom installer. He has heard speakers from most manufacturers including 800D2, Salon2, KEF...
Forum: Speakers   08-23-2014, 08:18 AM
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Posted By AcuDefTechGuy
Yeah, I'm now just realizing that about ARC. So...

Yeah, I'm now just realizing that about ARC. So if your speakers and room do bad things with the FR from 5kHz-20kHz, you're screwed unless you manually EQ.

If you have the tools and patience for...
Forum: Speakers   08-22-2014, 03:25 PM
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Posted By AcuDefTechGuy
Audyssey does have the ability to "tweak". All...

Audyssey does have the ability to "tweak". All you have to do is copy the Audyssey curve and then use manual EQ to tweak all you want.

There are also 3 automatic "tweaks".

1st is the Audyssey...
Forum: Speakers   08-22-2014, 03:06 PM
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Posted By AcuDefTechGuy
EMO-Q1. Here is a graph of Emo-Q2. Red is...

EMO-Q1.

Here is a graph of Emo-Q2. Red is EQ off or equivalent to Pure Direct mode.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd75/AcuDefTechGuy/imagejpg1_zps67317152.jpg...
Forum: Speakers   08-22-2014, 01:00 PM
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Posted By AcuDefTechGuy
Here is one example comparing Audyssey MultEQ...

Here is one example comparing Audyssey MultEQ (1st Gen, Green) vs Emo-Q1 (Blue).

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd75/AcuDefTechGuy/AudysseyisGreenEmoQisBlue_zps0339f02d.jpg...
Forum: Speakers   08-20-2014, 12:20 PM
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Posted By AcuDefTechGuy
ARC seems to do a good job with flattening out...

ARC seems to do a good job with flattening out the frequency response.

Dirac seems to flatten out the FR below 200Hz, but doesn't seem to do that much beyond that.

It looks to be the goal...
Forum: Speakers   08-20-2014, 12:01 PM
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Posted By AcuDefTechGuy
These are just examples found online. ...

These are just examples found online.

Lyngdorf RoomPerfect. Blue is Pure Direct:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd75/AcuDefTechGuy/LyngdorfRoomPerfectBlueisPD_zps50707501.jpg...
Forum: Speakers   08-20-2014, 09:50 AM
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Posted By AcuDefTechGuy
Well, that's fine. And someone who uses Sony's RC...

Well, that's fine. And someone who uses Sony's RC or MCACC or YPAO could say the same - they don't care about graphs - their RC sound better than Room-Perfect and everything else because they say so....
Forum: Speakers   08-20-2014, 08:16 AM
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Posted By AcuDefTechGuy
IMAX uses Audyssey Pro. But if you look at...

IMAX uses Audyssey Pro.

But if you look at the frequency response graphs of Audyssey XT32, the next best thing to Audyssey Pro, you see how flat and smooth the frequency responses are. The point...
Forum: Speakers   08-20-2014, 07:50 AM
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Posted By AcuDefTechGuy
If IMAX theaters felt the same as you, they...

If IMAX theaters felt the same as you, they probably would be using Room-Perfect too. :D

Obviously they don't agree with you since they use Audyssey.

The point is, just because Room-Perfect...
Forum: Speakers   08-20-2014, 05:46 AM
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Posted By AcuDefTechGuy
I didn't mean a graph of your room or any...

I didn't mean a graph of your room or any specific room. I mean ANY examples just to see what the software can do.

I've posted a few Audyssey graphs from actual measurements taken from other...
Forum: Speakers   08-19-2014, 04:40 PM
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Posted By AcuDefTechGuy
Everyone can see what Audyssey & Dynamic EQ can...

Everyone can see what Audyssey & Dynamic EQ can do for the frequency response.

Post some graphs of what the EMO can do. Everyone is invited to the party.

Let's see how flat and smooth the EMO...
Forum: Speakers   08-19-2014, 04:36 PM
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Posted By AcuDefTechGuy
Comparison of Audyssey vs MCACC vs YPAO. ...

Comparison of Audyssey vs MCACC vs YPAO.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ixbt.com%2Fmultimedia%2Facoustics-correction.shtml
Forum: Speakers   08-19-2014, 06:49 AM
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Posted By AcuDefTechGuy
See if EMO-Q has anything like Audyssey DEQ,...

See if EMO-Q has anything like Audyssey DEQ, which boosts the bass a little (while keeping the frequency response flat even beyond 10kHz) to give you that extra dynamic punchy bass sensation. :D
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Forum: Speakers   08-18-2014, 07:07 PM
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Posted By AcuDefTechGuy
You prefer the RoomPerfect because you think it...

You prefer the RoomPerfect because you think it makes the frequency response even flatter than what Audyssey & ARC can do?

Well, let's see some graphs of the RoomPerfect in action. Walk the...
Forum: Speakers   08-18-2014, 04:30 PM
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Posted By AcuDefTechGuy
Yeah, when Denon came out with the upgrade to...

Yeah, when Denon came out with the upgrade to Audyssey XT32 for the AVP-A1HDCI & AVR-5308CI, the cost was $1200 alone for the upgrade. :eek:

So to get the X4000 for under $1K is a great value IMO....
Forum: Speakers   08-18-2014, 04:17 PM
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Posted By AcuDefTechGuy
They compared Pioneer's MCACC vs YPAO vs Audyssey...

They compared Pioneer's MCACC vs YPAO vs Audyssey XT32.

Basically, MCACC & YPAO produced a placebo effect - they didn't do anything. The pre and post curves looked almost the same. They were not...
Forum: Speakers   08-18-2014, 10:41 AM
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Posted By AcuDefTechGuy
The AVR is truly just a pre-pro "separate" plus...

The AVR is truly just a pre-pro "separate" plus an internal amp. There is no magic to the pre-pro, no shortest path to the pre-pro. Check out the measurements to the pre-pro section of the AVR and...
Forum: Speakers   08-18-2014, 10:06 AM
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Posted By AcuDefTechGuy
Home Theater Mag continuous power output 2Ch...

Home Theater Mag continuous power output 2Ch 8ohms/2Ch 4ohms/5Ch 8ohms/1% THD:
$2000 Denon 4310: 179.3/258.5/131.0
$2000 Rotel 1550: 150.1/235.0/111.4
$2000 Anthem 700: 160.2/221.0/93.7...
Forum: Speakers   08-18-2014, 09:35 AM
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Posted By AcuDefTechGuy
When I say more "accurate" or "better" FR...

When I say more "accurate" or "better" FR measurement, I am referring to the on-axis and off-axis responses.

The B&W Matrix series was the most accurate of the B&W followed by the Nautilus. Not...
Forum: Speakers   08-16-2014, 04:58 PM
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Posted By AcuDefTechGuy
Real simple. Get an AVR with pre-outs. If your...

Real simple. Get an AVR with pre-outs. If your volume isn't too loud and distance is not too far, many $1K AVR can power those B&W just fine, especially in 5.1 mode where you allow the SVS sub to do...
Forum: Speakers   08-16-2014, 07:21 AM
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Posted By AcuDefTechGuy
Yes. Should be good to go there. I would not...

Yes. Should be good to go there. I would not waste any money on getting more power amps than that. Max rated power for those speakers is only 100W. Just don't play 105dB volume.
Forum: Speakers   08-15-2014, 05:59 PM
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Posted By AcuDefTechGuy
Yes. I agree it would be enlightening. :D ...

Yes. I agree it would be enlightening. :D

People have often asked me to compare the 802D2 vs Salon2 vs Orion 3.2.1 in the same room. Very difficult for me to pick a clear winner.
Forum: Speakers   08-15-2014, 04:07 PM
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Posted By AcuDefTechGuy
That's kind of my point - the subtleties and...

That's kind of my point - the subtleties and diminishing returns.

Whether it is between the 802 vs 800, 800D1 vs 800D2, or 800 vs Salon2, assuming we make it so that the bass is equal and the...
Forum: Speakers   08-15-2014, 11:53 AM
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Posted By AcuDefTechGuy
I never debated why a person should buy one...

I never debated why a person should buy one speaker instead of the other. The debate was never about personal worth. It was about their sound performance.

But looking at measurements, the...
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