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Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-24-2014, 06:50 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
LOL. I know - what I meant was that if he wanted...

LOL. I know - what I meant was that if he wanted to discuss Atmos, it would be better done via PM than in the thread :) Of course, if he doesn’t want to, or isn't interested in Atmos, then that's...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-24-2014, 06:38 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Well, at least you admit it, Mud. Oh -...

Well, at least you admit it, Mud.


Oh - you meant me? Me and Onkyo? LOL. Oh yeah, I am a true fanboy - I just said their entire 2014/15 lineup is cr&p thanks to AccuEQ and also said I am...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-24-2014, 06:34 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I don't want this thread to go sideways into an...

I don't want this thread to go sideways into an Atmos discussion, and am happy to take this to PM if you wish, but are you not interested in Atmos for this fall?
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-24-2014, 04:59 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
It'll be much less expensive for you to buy an...

It'll be much less expensive for you to buy an AVR with preouts and use that with external amps than to buy a processor. I already have amps for all my channels and I am going with the Denon X4100W...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-24-2014, 04:09 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Good call to wait, Bill, IMO. With Emo's track...

Good call to wait, Bill, IMO. With Emo's track record for accurate forecasts of availability of things, Dirac might be a long time coming.... hope not, but best to play safe I think. Buys you some...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-24-2014, 04:04 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I am told by a dealer friend that Onkyo 818's...

I am told by a dealer friend that Onkyo 818's with Audyssey XT32 "flew off the shelves". Its successor, the 828, which had plain old Audyssey MultEQ is "stacked high in the warehouses". Seems people...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-24-2014, 04:02 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I agree with you Selden. Mud was claiming that...

I agree with you Selden. Mud was claiming that the decision by Onkyo to go with AccuEQ and not to upgrade the CPU to handle Audyssey and Atmos simultaneously was directly related to the cost of past...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-24-2014, 03:58 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Yes. But the Denons have XT32 and the X4100W is...

Yes. But the Denons have XT32 and the X4100W is list price of $1399. Probably a bit cheaper on the street.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 01:57 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
It depends what your questions are. Quite a lot...

It depends what your questions are. Quite a lot of what we can expect in September is known already and some is still uncertain.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 12:40 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Indeed. But what do you think it has to do with...

Indeed. But what do you think it has to do with past warranty claims?
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 12:24 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Pavlov alert!!!!!! Did you not know that...

Pavlov alert!!!!!!

Did you not know that Onkyo dropped Audyssey in favor of AccuEQ because of limitations with their CPU? It could process Atmos or Audyssey but not both. AccuEQ demands less...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 11:32 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Haha. Two great hobbies combined into one :)

Haha. Two great hobbies combined into one :)
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 11:31 AM
Replies: 35
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Posted By kbarnes701
Yes, AccuEQ is dire. Great pity for Onkyo fans. I...

Yes, AccuEQ is dire. Great pity for Onkyo fans. I am having to switch to Denon when I go Atmos this fall. Not that Denon are bad or anything, but it's a new learning curve when you've been an Onkyo...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 08:55 AM
Replies: 438
Views: 14,029
Posted By kbarnes701
You make good points. I think the issue with the...

You make good points. I think the issue with the bass management has been explained a couple of times in this thread. Clearly, those with a single sub will not really care - until they acquire a...
Forum: Subwoofers, Bass, and Transducers   07-23-2014, 08:49 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I know just what you mean. Mark can be...

I know just what you mean.

Mark can be 'distracted' sometimes. Just keep plugging away. Seaton Sound is a small company and doesn’t have an army of administrators and staff, which is probably...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 08:29 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Good point. No. But the first one is.

Good point. No. But the first one is.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 08:29 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Couldn't agree more. Michael Bay has much to...

Couldn't agree more. Michael Bay has much to answer for. But bad sound isn't one of them ;)
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 08:26 AM
Replies: 438
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Posted By kbarnes701
Agreed. I should have said "works as intended"...

Agreed. I should have said "works as intended" not "right". Of course, Emo will say that their form of BM also works "as intended".

Nonetheless, I still hold that XT32/Sub-EQ HT is still a...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 08:22 AM
Replies: 438
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Posted By kbarnes701
It's true that a feature, working or not, is...

It's true that a feature, working or not, is irrelevant to those who don't use that feature. But it is highly relevant to those who do. Just because a broken or poorly implemented feature doesn’t...
Forum: Speakers   07-23-2014, 07:22 AM
Replies: 527
Views: 17,275
Posted By kbarnes701
I'm sure you are right. The Atmos speakers I...

I'm sure you are right. The Atmos speakers I heard were "prototypes". They didn't appear to be anything special but they could have been $5,000 each for all I know (I doubt they were but it's...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 07:16 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Of course the content is the most important...

Of course the content is the most important thing. But it is an apples/oranges comparison, in the context of this thread, to compare a non-Atmos movie with an Atmos movie IMO. I'd 100% agree that...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 07:12 AM
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Views: 1,577
Posted By kbarnes701
Comparison, with graphs. ...

Comparison, with graphs.


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Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 07:11 AM
Replies: 5,597
Views: 213,119
Posted By kbarnes701
XT32 is still King IMO. And Pro certainly does no...

XT32 is still King IMO. And Pro certainly does no harm of course, but at $700 it doesn't seem all that good value to me. Mine cost me close on $1,000 with carriage to the UK and import taxes and, on...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 07:01 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
It's true but kinda irrelevant. The real...

It's true but kinda irrelevant. The real comparison would be how an Atmos version of Casablanca compared with an Atmos version of Transformers. Some would prefer one movie, some the other.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   07-23-2014, 07:00 AM
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Views: 66,806
Posted By kbarnes701
I'm not holding off. I already made up my mind....

I'm not holding off. I already made up my mind. Denon for me when Atmos arrives.
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