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Forum: Audio theory, Setup and Chat   08-29-2014, 06:47 PM
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Posted By HDgaming42
A note of thanks, a question, and a suggestion. ...

A note of thanks, a question, and a suggestion.

First, thank-you for your REW guide--it is what eventually pushed me over the edge into a "you can do this" mentality. I have followed so many...
Forum: Audio theory, Setup and Chat   08-27-2014, 07:11 PM
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Posted By HDgaming42
Slowly making my way through this thread. What...

Slowly making my way through this thread. What an excellent resource! I can see why Markus advocates the RTA method:



I believe this addresses my situation exactly. Thanks 3ll3d00d!
Forum: Audio theory, Setup and Chat   08-27-2014, 04:27 PM
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Posted By HDgaming42
An astute observation. Thank you for taking the...

An astute observation. Thank you for taking the time to go back and peruse the mountain of data I've collected to offer this explanation.

Judging by how a non-averaged RTA was entirely...
Forum: Audio theory, Setup and Chat   08-27-2014, 03:43 PM
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Posted By HDgaming42
But where does it lie? The only thing that...

But where does it lie?

The only thing that agrees with my AVR is this RTA method, which makes no sense as it is using the same tone generator in REW that doesn't agree with my AVR...
Forum: Audio theory, Setup and Chat   08-27-2014, 02:53 PM
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Posted By HDgaming42
Besides being no closer to an answer you mean? ...

Besides being no closer to an answer you mean? ;) The RTA method had me arrive at the same levels as suggested by my AVR. The REW test tone method wants me to lower the sub by about 5dB.

If the...
Forum: Audio theory, Setup and Chat   08-27-2014, 02:42 PM
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Posted By HDgaming42
Thank you SO MUCH for taking all the voltage...

Thank you SO MUCH for taking all the voltage techno-babble and translating it in to "guy who want to listen to his monitors and not have them sound like ****".

I have a multi-meter. I can follow...
Forum: Audio theory, Setup and Chat   08-27-2014, 02:34 PM
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Posted By HDgaming42
Not sure how I initially missed the 32 averaging....

Not sure how I initially missed the 32 averaging. Looks like this RTA method is a win for team AVR internal test tones, as I arrived at -1 for sub trim, off the 0 I had.

Does this look (attached)...
Forum: Audio theory, Setup and Chat   08-27-2014, 02:04 PM
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Posted By HDgaming42
I agree completely. Please do if you...

I agree completely.



Please do if you find the time--this would be immensely helpful. :)
Forum: Audio theory, Setup and Chat   08-27-2014, 02:01 PM
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Posted By HDgaming42
Turns out (when I bring enough light into that...

Turns out (when I bring enough light into that cave!) my monitors have 3 markings on them for gain. "off", which is literally off--no sound, "-10" at the top and "normal" at the far right.

I set...
Forum: Audio theory, Setup and Chat   08-27-2014, 01:56 PM
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Posted By HDgaming42
This sounds very promising... I think...

This sounds very promising...



I think I've wrapped my head around that link and now understand why to use -30dB FS. I'm a little lost with your RTA method though. If my response is all over...
Forum: Audio theory, Setup and Chat   08-27-2014, 01:07 PM
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Posted By HDgaming42
Mackie HR624mkII....

Mackie HR624mkII. (http://www.mackie.com/products/hrmk2series/downloads/HR624MK2_Specs.pdf) They are the first powered monitors I've owned, and what you've described makes a lot of sense.

How...
Forum: Audio theory, Setup and Chat   08-27-2014, 12:53 PM
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Posted By HDgaming42
I'm going off memory here, so it is certainly...

I'm going off memory here, so it is certainly fallible, but I started this whole process using "speaker cal" for my monitors and "sub cal" for my sub until I was (erroneously) informed that the "sub...
Forum: Audio theory, Setup and Chat   08-27-2014, 10:49 AM
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Posted By HDgaming42
Testing internal AVR test tones vs REW vs CD

Here was my methodology.

1. Set the trim in the AVR equal to zero for the left, center, right and sub channels as a starting point.
2. Set all speakers to cross over at 80Hz. Set sub LPF to...
Forum: Audio theory, Setup and Chat   08-27-2014, 10:00 AM
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Posted By HDgaming42
Thank you for this detailed walkthrough. I will...

Thank you for this detailed walkthrough. I will tell you how my process so far (what I have done prior to you providing this breakdown) has deviated from yours, and whether you think that would...
Forum: Audio theory, Setup and Chat   08-27-2014, 09:41 AM
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Posted By HDgaming42
I should be more careful with my language. What...

I should be more careful with my language. What I meant to say was I use a UMIK-1 for all my measurements. It came with a calibration file (with sensitivity settings) that I have loaded into REW. ...
Forum: Audio theory, Setup and Chat   08-27-2014, 08:57 AM
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Posted By HDgaming42
Lots of help offered here--thank you. I don't...

Lots of help offered here--thank you. I don't have time right now for a proper response, but will draw one up when I have the time.

The coles notes of what I found last night--using two different...
Forum: Audio theory, Setup and Chat   08-26-2014, 03:57 PM
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Posted By HDgaming42
UMIK-1 with sensitivity. I set levels every...

UMIK-1 with sensitivity. I set levels every session.
Forum: Audio theory, Setup and Chat   08-26-2014, 03:48 PM
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Posted By HDgaming42
Ahhh, I get it. Thanks. :) Good to...

Ahhh, I get it. Thanks. :)



Good to know.



There is confusion all around. First it was theorized that the error in my chain was that I was using the LFE channel, or Channel 4 as it...
Forum: Audio theory, Setup and Chat   08-26-2014, 02:56 PM
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Posted By HDgaming42
No--just don't have the time ATM. A full...

No--just don't have the time ATM. A full 8-position measurement takes over 40 minutes. My free time right now is measured in 5-10 minute blocks. :(



Fair enough. However over HDMI (what I'm...
Forum: Audio theory, Setup and Chat   08-26-2014, 01:16 PM
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Posted By HDgaming42
Thanks--I will give this a try. Of...

Thanks--I will give this a try.



Of course not. I thought I'd laid out quite explicitly as to why I'm confused. I guess not.



This came about because I'm learning to use REW in the...
Forum: Audio theory, Setup and Chat   08-26-2014, 11:42 AM
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Posted By HDgaming42
I'm very interested in alternative methods, but...

I'm very interested in alternative methods, but must admit I'm a bit lost by your picture. Perhaps it will become clear when I attempt to use the RTA.

The 1kHz matches neither the 30Hz or 60Hz...
Forum: Audio theory, Setup and Chat   08-26-2014, 11:33 AM
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Posted By HDgaming42
I feel you. I really do. I will try to best...

I feel you. I really do. I will try to best document what I did, my results--and why I'm so confused.

Yes, I followed your procedure. Used REW just as the SPL meter--used my AVRs test tones and...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-26-2014, 09:51 AM
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Posted By HDgaming42
Thank-you! I will (re) read the Audyssey setup...

Thank-you! I will (re) read the Audyssey setup guide and see what progress I make. I am not yet ready to run Audyssey (it is disengaged), but assume you're referring to the general principles found...
Forum: Audio theory, Setup and Chat   08-26-2014, 09:08 AM
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Posted By HDgaming42
Correct. Channel 1 and 2 with the monitors...

Correct. Channel 1 and 2 with the monitors switched off, bass management engaged at 80Hz.
Forum: Audio theory, Setup and Chat   08-26-2014, 08:09 AM
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Posted By HDgaming42
I did--yes. Was just preparing the images. ...

I did--yes. Was just preparing the images.

So it appears my AVR's test signals result in the sub being 10dB HOT. I suspect I have become accustomed to this exaggerated bass over the seven years...
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