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Forum: Display Calibration   03-25-2017, 02:08 AM
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Posted By Iron Mike
cLUT === calibration LUT the WP offset...

cLUT === calibration LUT

the WP offset is/may be necessary for OLED displays, not for standard projectors
Forum: Display Calibration   03-23-2017, 04:11 PM
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Posted By Iron Mike
one of the massive problems with trying to...

one of the massive problems with trying to perceptually match - besides the non-reference viewing environment - is the reference display.... like using a notebook or computer screen to display a pure...
Forum: Display Calibration   03-21-2017, 05:17 PM
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Posted By Iron Mike
smaller sized panels, like 25". The QC/QA can be...

smaller sized panels, like 25". The QC/QA can be kept to very high standards. Not so much with large panels, and then consumer panels which are lower price point anyways and lower quality.

But -...
Forum: Display Calibration   03-21-2017, 04:00 PM
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Posted By Iron Mike
well, I'm glad I could help out in our discussion...

well, I'm glad I could help out in our discussion about this for a 3rd time... :D

another clarification regarding above statement:

client monitors are obviously NOT altered to perceptually...
Forum: Display Calibration   03-21-2017, 03:46 AM
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Posted By Iron Mike
then why don't u ask Bram... (a) how...

then why don't u ask Bram...

(a) how Minolta/Sony arrived at the result (he knows the details)

and

(b) what the large majority of his OLED customers (working in the Pro field) are using as...
Forum: Display Calibration   03-21-2017, 02:00 AM
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Posted By Iron Mike
oh man, it is really mind boggling having to...

oh man, it is really mind boggling having to explain this... to YOU out of all people, mate........ (again)

As I explained, using the Sony probe offsets will lead to inferior results (because...
Forum: Display Calibration   03-20-2017, 05:26 PM
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Posted By Iron Mike
Steve, the problem is u don't use OLED, u...

Steve,

the problem is u don't use OLED, u don't grade on OLED and u don't calibrate OLED, and u're based off old, outdated information.

The values I posted (and the value shown in the white...
Forum: Display Calibration   03-20-2017, 04:11 PM
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Posted By Iron Mike
FSI uses the WP coordinates I posted, in exactly...

FSI uses the WP coordinates I posted, in exactly the fashion I described. NOT any differently.

Anybody in LA on high end OLEDs does exactly what I wrote.

The numbers posted - which are the...
Forum: Display Calibration   03-20-2017, 03:30 PM
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Posted By Iron Mike
Mate..... first off, u know I'm in direct contact...

Mate..... first off, u know I'm in direct contact with them. It is exactly how I wrote it.

Second, have u actually looked at the white paper....... look at the WHITE POINT being entered (in the...
Forum: Display Calibration   03-20-2017, 03:09 PM
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Posted By Iron Mike
as this has been already discussed on other Pro...

as this has been already discussed on other Pro forums, I will keep it short here:

the WP coordinates I posted were derived by Minolta in cooperation with Sony in a bit more scientific way. They...
Forum: Display Calibration   03-20-2017, 05:06 AM
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Posted By Iron Mike
it's what Steve referred to. The Judd probe...

it's what Steve referred to. The Judd probe offset approach was used initially with not so good results. Some OLED screens have an internal option to apply a Judd offset to the signal (not sure if...
Forum: Display Calibration   03-20-2017, 04:39 AM
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Posted By Iron Mike
in addition to what Steve has posted, just for...

in addition to what Steve has posted, just for clarification as the term "Judd" is often used in various contexts:

the very best approach for OLED is to use a Judd modified white point, when...
Forum: Display Calibration   03-17-2017, 08:34 PM
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Posted By Iron Mike
u don't have to explain that to me, I commented...

u don't have to explain that to me, I commented because u write confusing and contradicting statements. just read exactly what u wrote in ur post that I commented on. that shows that either u are...
Forum: Display Calibration   03-17-2017, 01:54 AM
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Posted By Iron Mike
there's quite a few things wrong in this post,...

there's quite a few things wrong in this post, but to make it short:

point is in a post pipeline with various vendors and facilities to agree on and utilize the SAME calibration target. this is...
Forum: Display Calibration   03-01-2017, 03:10 PM
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Posted By Iron Mike
I reported this 3-4 years ago to Spectracal, so...

I reported this 3-4 years ago to Spectracal, so get ready for a fix in 2035. A fix, that will not work anyways. :)
Forum: Display Calibration   02-15-2017, 03:06 PM
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Posted By Iron Mike
there is no 4K LUT box from eeColor. Info about...

there is no 4K LUT box from eeColor. Info about the 1080p box here (https://displaycalibrationtools.com/store/eecolor-lut-box-65-cube-3d-lut-color-correction-processor/)
Forum: Display Calibration   01-29-2017, 06:56 PM
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Posted By Iron Mike
Brian, read this, should clear everything up...

Brian,

read this, should clear everything up ;-)

http://displaycalibrationtools.com/display-calibration-guides-and-workflows/eecolor-setup-instructions-and-workflow-guide/


- M
Forum: Display Calibration   01-23-2017, 04:36 AM
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Posted By Iron Mike
what's the overall avg dE ? also, it would...

what's the overall avg dE ?

also, it would be good to know at what stimuli the dE occurrences of 1.5-2.5 are... if u got access to the LSPR on DCT, load the profile and set the dE filter, it will...
Forum: Display Calibration   01-23-2017, 04:33 AM
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Posted By Iron Mike
avg low light was a function that was implemented...

avg low light was a function that was implemented later on in LS and that I did use when I used the i1D3... the time will definitely increase by a bit... don't remember the exact time it took, Ted...
Forum: Display Calibration   01-09-2017, 08:55 PM
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Posted By Iron Mike
standard full fields, this is a high grade OLED,...

standard full fields, this is a high grade OLED, zero issues
Forum: Display Calibration   01-09-2017, 01:20 PM
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Posted By Iron Mike
always as many as u can do time wise - obviously...

always as many as u can do time wise - obviously use a smart patch set, one that distributes the patches well across the gamut.

On a very linear display u can get away with much less... I own high...
Forum: Display Calibration   11-20-2016, 03:15 PM
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Posted By Iron Mike
eeColor is by far best and cheapest solution if: ...

eeColor is by far best and cheapest solution if:

1. HDMI signal path is sufficient, which for HT usually is the case
2. HD res is sufficient
3. u do not need VP functionality

performance and...
Forum: Display Calibration   06-04-2016, 02:56 AM
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Posted By Iron Mike
don't worry about these deviations between 0-8%...

don't worry about these deviations between 0-8% and 92-100%. The way gamma is calculated u could have a larger gamma deviation in those areas but the actual luminance difference to target in those...
Forum: Display Calibration   06-01-2016, 05:24 AM
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Posted By Iron Mike
mate, just to be clear: (1) FSI did not...

mate, just to be clear:

(1) FSI did not provide me with an offset for my CM250 - but I have mine longer than before u guys came up with the new approach

(2) the approach described on ur page...
Forum: Display Calibration   06-01-2016, 04:23 AM
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Posted By Iron Mike
Judd coordinates are: 0.3067, 0.3180 - ur page...

Judd coordinates are: 0.3067, 0.3180 - ur page does not state them - Bram confirmed those, not that I did not test other white point values.

as mentioned, using the screen built-in Judd offset...
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