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Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-22-2014, 03:41 PM
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Posted By batpig
Yes to both. The Denon Atmos models are shipping...

Yes to both. The Denon Atmos models are shipping with Atmos / DSU already included out of the gate.

And the X5200W is basically a Japanese made, souped-up version of the X4100W. It's basically...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-22-2014, 02:44 PM
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Posted By batpig
Didn't you mention previously that your wides are...

Didn't you mention previously that your wides are mismatched (i.e. not at all the same speaker family as the other speakers)? What kind of speakers are they?

False positives for the polarity...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-22-2014, 12:24 PM
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Posted By batpig
That will be an interesting demo considering they...

That will be an interesting demo considering they are using "conventional" small 2-way bookshelf type speakers mounted on the ceiling as Atmos speakers. Although the Gems do have two drivers mounted...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-22-2014, 11:53 AM
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Posted By batpig
Ah! So you will be testing both? I eagerly...

Ah! So you will be testing both? I eagerly anticipate your full reports :)

Especially interested in hearing about the speaker position / assignment flexiblity in each model. Many people won't...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-22-2014, 11:51 AM
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Posted By batpig
The 2313CI doesn't have an independent 2nd HDMI...

The 2313CI doesn't have an independent 2nd HDMI output, rather, it's simply a split/mirrored output for the 2 HDMI outs. So that means any settings that are on one apply to the other.

When the...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-22-2014, 11:25 AM
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Posted By batpig
You don't have to replace your existing speakers....

You don't have to replace your existing speakers. You just have to add at least two (but preferably four) elevated speakers. These additional speakers can either be physical in-ceiling speakers, or...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-22-2014, 10:31 AM
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Posted By batpig
What happened to the Yammy?

What happened to the Yammy?
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-21-2014, 04:35 PM
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Posted By batpig
For one of the lower end 7ch Atmos receivers you...

For one of the lower end 7ch Atmos receivers you would have to sacrifice back surrounds to add 2 overhead Atmos speakers. The "core" 5.1 channels are mandatory, but beyond that it's up to how many...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-21-2014, 03:41 PM
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Posted By batpig
Yes, it's a shared output, but there is a...

Yes, it's a shared output, but there is a specific setup step in the GUI workflow where you tell it which of the eight possible height speaker pairs (front/middle/rear tops, front/rear heights, or...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-21-2014, 03:34 PM
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Posted By batpig
Where did AJ say explicitly that the ~180Hz...

Where did AJ say explicitly that the ~180Hz filter to the forward-firing portion of speaker is a passive filter in the speaker? I remember watching the video interview with SW and not feeling it was...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-21-2014, 02:48 PM
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Posted By batpig
That sounds fine in theory but that understanding...

That sounds fine in theory but that understanding is directly contradicted by the Denon manual:

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=222737&d=1408657680

Notice all the...
Forum: Plasma Flat Panel Displays   08-21-2014, 02:43 PM
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Posted By batpig
$400 for a premium 65" display seems like a great...

$400 for a premium 65" display seems like a great deal. It probably won't have the black levels or light output of newer displays, and it's really heavy, but the overall PQ should be as good or...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-21-2014, 12:28 PM
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Posted By batpig
But, more importantly, it's probably a bad idea...

But, more importantly, it's probably a bad idea to attempt to drive 2 ohm speakers with ANY receiver. The vast majority of consumer speakers will be rated at least 4 ohms nominal. What speakers do...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-21-2014, 10:59 AM
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Posted By batpig
Again, I think there are two key restrictions...

Again, I think there are two key restrictions that are inviolate:

1. You can only have FOUR elevated speakers (so you can't have four "top" speakers for Atmos and a separate pair of "Front Height"...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-21-2014, 10:33 AM
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Posted By batpig
I may be missing something but I don't think you...

I may be missing something but I don't think you can use DSX, Neo:X, etc. with the "virtual" Atmos height speakers.

Taking the Denon as an example, you have to specifically designate that you...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-21-2014, 09:24 AM
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Posted By batpig
The issue (not just the X4100W but the higher...

The issue (not just the X4100W but the higher models is well) is that it appears they support a MAX of FOUR height/top speakers. The "Front Wide" outputs can't be configured to output a third pair...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-21-2014, 09:17 AM
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Posted By batpig
I assume by 9.1.2 configuration you mean 7.1 +...

I assume by 9.1.2 configuration you mean 7.1 + Front Wides + 1 pair of Height/Tops. What we DO know (based on the speaker output chart on pg 287) is that Dolby Surround upmixer, as implemented on...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-20-2014, 06:21 PM
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Posted By batpig
#1...

#1 (http://www.avsforum.com/forum/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1) is going to b tough but unless I am totally misreading the manual #2...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-20-2014, 06:17 PM
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Posted By batpig
JD and I have been explicitly told the 7200 (like...

JD and I have been explicitly told the 7200 (like the 5200) is 9 amps, 11ch max at a time. I have no reason to believe the Marantz models (which are based on the same internals) will be any...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-20-2014, 10:41 AM
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Posted By batpig
Again, this argument is premised on the...

Again, this argument is premised on the assumption that an object will take up as much data as a channel. That's the only way to conclude that 20% increase in file size is equal to 2 objects. What...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-20-2014, 10:04 AM
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Posted By batpig
This makes no sense. First of all why would you...

This makes no sense. First of all why would you assume that one object = one channel in terms of file size (10 x 20% = 2 objects)?

More importantly though the initial reference is a 20% increase...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-20-2014, 09:05 AM
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Posted By batpig
You can do it on the front panel or the main...

You can do it on the front panel or the main remote. This is all covered in your manual.

No real harm having them on other than a bit more power consumption.
Forum: Subwoofers, Bass, and Transducers   08-20-2014, 06:47 AM
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Posted By batpig
Get the better sub (SVS or RA). Stepping up from...

Get the better sub (SVS or RA). Stepping up from the $200-300 range to the $500 sub is still well before the point of marginal gains on the subwoofer price/performance curve, especially given the...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-20-2014, 06:34 AM
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Posted By batpig
Isn't HDMI just awesome? :rolleyes:

Isn't HDMI just awesome? :rolleyes:
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   08-19-2014, 01:42 PM
Replies: 281
Views: 16,467
Posted By batpig
You aren't wrong. Why you are missing though is...

You aren't wrong. Why you are missing though is that for some time the vast majority of content will NOT be natively mixed in Atmos.

As long as you have more speakers installed than the...
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