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Forum: DIY Speakers and Subs   10-22-2014, 10:25 AM
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Posted By dgage
Depends on the AE. I have several pairs of AE...

Depends on the AE. I have several pairs of AE and don't care for a pronounced shoe box. I'm sure this added greatly to the thread.

P.S. I'm a boss...I told myself that just this morning when...
Forum: Speakers   10-21-2014, 05:00 PM
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Posted By dgage
Not sure if it was Dan but someone with Emotiva...

Not sure if it was Dan but someone with Emotiva promised an update to address a few known issues with the Sherbourn PT-7030 when they put them on clearance....yeah, didn't happen. Wouldn't trust Emo...
Forum: DIY Speakers and Subs   10-21-2014, 01:12 PM
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Posted By dgage
Well I guess I still have pretty decent hearing...

Well I guess I still have pretty decent hearing as I only had a single 10" nearfield when I was in high school. I was building ported 15s for customers but I wanted super clean sealed subs...and...
Forum: DIY Speakers and Subs   10-21-2014, 12:08 PM
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Posted By dgage
Then get the hell off this forum now! You've...

Then get the hell off this forum now! You've been warned. :eek: :D
Forum: DIY Speakers and Subs   10-21-2014, 07:41 AM
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Posted By dgage
But does the HT18 use the same connectors as the...

But does the HT18 use the same connectors as the HST18. That was the only thing I was unsure of.
Forum: DIY Speakers and Subs   10-20-2014, 08:20 PM
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Posted By dgage
Depending on the size of your wire and the wire...

Depending on the size of your wire and the wire connections on the subwoofer, you can sometimes put two wires into one subwoofer connection. If not, I'd just expose more wire on one of the pairs...
Forum: Speakers   10-20-2014, 04:51 PM
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Posted By dgage
I have not heard the ported 212. I think I'm...

I have not heard the ported 212. I think I'm just going to turn my sealed 212 into a ported 212 if Jeff will give me the measurements. I have the woodworking ability and my 212s are bare as I...
Forum: Speakers   10-20-2014, 04:48 PM
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Posted By dgage
I'd love to hear them but likely won't go out of...

I'd love to hear them but likely won't go out of my way to hear them.
Forum: Speakers   10-20-2014, 03:01 PM
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Posted By dgage
Looks like I need to schedule another measuring...

Looks like I need to schedule another measuring day - 212HT-LP vs S8. See if there is a measurable difference that I think I'm hearing.

This is news to me but apparently I have more acute hearing...
Forum: Speakers   10-20-2014, 01:11 PM
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Posted By dgage
I agree on the mind...once I get it into my head...

I agree on the mind...once I get it into my head that I am not happy with a speaker, I simply won't listen to it. When I was in college, I had a set of JBL 5.1s that were maybe $1000 total list...
Forum: Speakers   10-20-2014, 12:55 PM
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Posted By dgage
Frohlich - based on everything I've read,...

Frohlich - based on everything I've read, (almost) all of the comments related to lack of midbass seem solely focused on the sealed versions. I am considering converting my sealed 212 HT-LPs to...
Forum: Speakers   10-20-2014, 12:50 PM
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Posted By dgage
Then we'll just put this one down as agree to...

Then we'll just put this one down as agree to disagree. Listen, I own both the S8s and the 212s and have no plans to get rid of either...well maybe my 212s due to midbass but that is not in play...
Forum: Speakers   10-20-2014, 07:54 AM
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Posted By dgage
Good post. I'm one of those that think there is...

Good post. I'm one of those that think there is a night and day difference between the S8 and 212 but most on here seem to say the "S8 is great for what it is." If it is a surround, I agree...
Forum: Speakers   10-18-2014, 11:22 AM
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Posted By dgage
So that's your secret to high end sound? :D

So that's your secret to high end sound? :D
Forum: Speakers   10-18-2014, 09:28 AM
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Posted By dgage
I don't know the dispersion on the 215 but the...

I don't know the dispersion on the 215 but the 212 supposedly uses the EighteenSounds XR-1464 horn, which has 60x40 dispersion. Couldn't find the dispersion numbers for the 215.
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Forum: Speakers   10-18-2014, 09:09 AM
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Posted By dgage
Of the ones that have the 215s, how many ordered...

Of the ones that have the 215s, how many ordered the auto paint version over the Duratex? Would be interesting to see if there was a sound difference between those.
Forum: Speakers   10-18-2014, 09:06 AM
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Posted By dgage
I wish I knew why we are hearing different...

I wish I knew why we are hearing different things. I surmised it was the switch from an aluminum horn with a hard surface vs the wood horn with a rougher Duratex finish. The wood, not being as hard...
Forum: Speakers   10-18-2014, 09:01 AM
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Posted By dgage
Smart a** doc! :D It isn't only me, Coach heard...

Smart a** doc! :D It isn't only me, Coach heard the difference too, pretty clearly as well as Coach's calibrator. I will say Coach is more in tune to dialog as he mentioned hearing differences...
Forum: Speakers   10-18-2014, 08:51 AM
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Posted By dgage
Actually, let me step back. I first noticed the...

Actually, let me step back. I first noticed the difference at Coach's house that I thought they sounded different. I went home and fired up the 212s and thought, wow, I really like the 212 upper...
Forum: Speakers   10-18-2014, 08:42 AM
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Posted By dgage
I know a room affects sound and speakers to a...

I know a room affects sound and speakers to a certain degree but I find it hard to believe it has that huge a disparity, especially when I'm 2 feet in front of said speakers and hearing major tonal...
Forum: DIY Speakers and Subs   10-18-2014, 08:39 AM
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Views: 13,379
Posted By dgage
And apparently I paid for the privilege. But...

And apparently I paid for the privilege. But with comments like that, your new box might be empty when I "forget" to bring them to the GTG. :)
Forum: Dedicated Theater Design & Construction   10-18-2014, 08:37 AM
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Posted By dgage
Great job and result Enderland! Thanks for...

Great job and result Enderland! Thanks for sharing.
Forum: Speakers   10-18-2014, 08:33 AM
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Posted By dgage
That is just crazy (crazy due to the disparity)...

That is just crazy (crazy due to the disparity) because the 212s and Cat12s were closer in upper range sound than the 215 and 212. And I can't see how the room would affect the sound that much,...
Forum: Speakers   10-18-2014, 08:28 AM
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Posted By dgage
Should we tell them about SpeakerPower class D...

Should we tell them about SpeakerPower class D amps? Ha. Stupidity. :)
Forum: DIY Speakers and Subs   10-18-2014, 08:24 AM
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Views: 13,379
Posted By dgage
Hurry up and repair that with some more poly. ...

Hurry up and repair that with some more poly. This time make sure the surface is dust free. :)

Cause you've got another box to build. These fell on the truck while I was getting a load (and I do...
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