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Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   03-25-2017, 02:41 PM
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Happens in high as well. Also 3d, 2d, HD,...

Happens in high as well. Also 3d, 2d, HD, UHD.....happens in all cases when CMD is engaged.
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   03-25-2017, 02:16 PM
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Look at the pic AMartin56 posted a few posts up....

Look at the pic AMartin56 posted a few posts up. This is a great example and the exact banding we are talking about when CMD (FI) is engaged. Its always vertical bands like you can see in her face in...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   03-24-2017, 02:31 PM
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Doesn't surprise me. As I mentioned last weekend,...

Doesn't surprise me. As I mentioned last weekend, my UHD player with a direct connect does not reproduce all the banding scenes that my Oppo does going through mini/darbee, but there is still...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   03-24-2017, 05:18 AM
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I agree, but in this case, ignorance is not...

I agree, but in this case, ignorance is not necessarily bliss. As AMartin56 described in the other JVC thread where we have been discussing this issue, once you turn CMD off and live with that a...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   03-23-2017, 09:19 PM
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A number of scenes in Lego movie, the kitchen...

A number of scenes in Lego movie, the kitchen scene in the beginning of Deepwater Horizon, about 6 or 7 scenes in the opening 10 minutes of Mad Max, Toy Story 3 in the beginning in the kids bedroom...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   03-23-2017, 08:55 PM
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My perception was different rollon. It just...

My perception was different rollon. It just softens the picture too much to my eyes to be worth it, and still doesn't solve the banding issue completely in all cases. I would rather go without CMD...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   03-23-2017, 08:01 PM
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Posted By Toe
This isn't a solution as it doesn't remove it...

This isn't a solution as it doesn't remove it completely for one and two it kills your sharpness/detail. This is a bandaid at best. This needs a real fix from JVC via a FW update.
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   03-22-2017, 05:51 AM
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Posted By Toe
Thanks and I will try this, but I don't use an...

Thanks and I will try this, but I don't use an Oppo 203. I use a Oppo 93, Toshiba HD DVD player and a Phillips UHD player and banding happens on all of them once CMD is engaged. I think we're talking...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   03-22-2017, 05:13 AM
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I don't believe we are talking about the same...

I don't believe we are talking about the same issue. What settings did you change exactly in the Oppo? I would love if the banding was a simple fix and will give this a shot.
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   03-21-2017, 12:00 PM
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Exactly. I was noticing this grabbing time stamps...

Exactly. I was noticing this grabbing time stamps of Mad Max the other day. There were a few very subtle banding scenes I didn't even jot down because I wanted to give the JVC guys some more obvious...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   03-21-2017, 05:14 AM
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Posted By Toe
I'll go without CMD (which I'm already doing due...

I'll go without CMD (which I'm already doing due to this ugly banding) before using smoothing and NR which is a compromise in itself as you mention (and one we shouldn't have to make just for better,...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   03-19-2017, 06:52 PM
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I actually noticed it on my very first UHD movie...

I actually noticed it on my very first UHD movie experience which was Deepwater Horizon (noticed it a number of times in the opening 10 minutes or so when the family is in the kitchen area and when...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   03-19-2017, 06:42 PM
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Posted By Toe
It certainly could be showing less as evidenced...

It certainly could be showing less as evidenced by my experiments this weekend.
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   03-19-2017, 04:18 PM
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Posted By Toe
I'm just the opposite. My eyes are drawn to it at...

I'm just the opposite. My eyes are drawn to it at this point and it just kills the presentation for me. Takes me right back to the LCD vertical banding days which drove me nuts as well. I cant even...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   03-19-2017, 03:12 PM
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Posted By Toe
Great thoughts Seegs, but I don't have a HT PC...

Great thoughts Seegs, but I don't have a HT PC and gaming mode when used with 24hz material affects the sharpness so it's a no go (plus whatever benefit it brings to motion resolution is nowhere near...
Forum: Subwoofers, Bass, and Transducers   03-19-2017, 03:03 PM
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Posted By Toe
I can and definitely would do ceiling mounted...

I can and definitely would do ceiling mounted speakers if I do go Atmos. My MLP is out from the rear wall a good ways. I might be better off than I think, but I'm tapped out as far as HT purchases go...
Forum: Subwoofers, Bass, and Transducers   03-19-2017, 02:25 PM
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Posted By Toe
I don't know if my room is geared all that well...

I don't know if my room is geared all that well for Atmos as you mention, so not super excited about taking the leap.

Agreed on HDR and front projection as it's a bit of a joke. Certainly not...
Forum: Subwoofers, Bass, and Transducers   03-19-2017, 01:57 PM
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Posted By Toe
I'm with you on 3d. 3d over 4k is an easy choice...

I'm with you on 3d. 3d over 4k is an easy choice for me from what I have seen of UHD/HDR up to this point on my new display. On projectors at least, the leap from HD blu to UHD blu is much less...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   03-19-2017, 01:41 PM
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It could be the difference between an upscaled...

It could be the difference between an upscaled 1080p >4k input vs 1080p, or it could be some sort of interaction of the Darbee/Lumagen making more banding visible or it could be something else, who...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   03-19-2017, 01:04 PM
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Posted By Toe
Apparently you did not read my posts in full. MPC...

Apparently you did not read my posts in full. MPC settings were the exact same between using my Oppo and Phillips player as I was using my custom 2d setting in the JVC. The differences were the Oppo...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   03-19-2017, 12:04 PM
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I was stumped why the guys in the Springs...

I was stumped why the guys in the Springs couldn't reproduce all the time stamps I gave them yesterday as well until I threw MM in my other player and some of the same exact times that clearly showed...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   03-18-2017, 09:44 PM
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No, the banding was there no matter what I tried,...

No, the banding was there no matter what I tried, but there were less instances of it with my Philips UHD player connected directly to the 520 and upscaling (I don't know if the upscaling had...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   03-18-2017, 09:05 PM
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Yes. Started on the models prior to the...

Yes. Started on the models prior to the 400/500/600, but wasn't present on the 40/50/60 and 45/55/65.
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   03-18-2017, 08:37 PM
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Posted By Toe
Not true, at least with the 420/520/620. Me...

Not true, at least with the 420/520/620.

Me and Chris from JVC were troubleshooting this a bit today with Mad Max and we discovered one interesting thing so far which is some players, or at least...
Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   03-18-2017, 06:17 PM
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Posted By Toe
That's certainly one advantage! :( :p

That's certainly one advantage! :( :p
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