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Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   09-16-2014, 06:07 PM
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Posted By rogo
I'm fairly sure the Philips 42-inch plasma first...

I'm fairly sure the Philips 42-inch plasma first was delivered to U.S. retail at $14,999. As a real, retail product. The Pioneer 50-inch was $24,999.



I doubt we'll see anything smaller than 55...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   09-16-2014, 05:58 PM
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Posted By rogo
Demand is so inelastic here that at "only double"...

Demand is so inelastic here that at "only double" they probably sell next to nothing more than they sell at quadruple, especially in the 65"-plus category, which is ~2% of the entire U.S. market and...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   09-16-2014, 05:54 PM
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Posted By rogo
I'd say this is the first real indication more...

I'd say this is the first real indication more has changed than the price on a web page.

And I'd also say it's a pretty firm sign LG doesn't want to sell the 65 or the 77. Apparently, they want to...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   09-16-2014, 05:49 PM
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Posted By rogo
Should probably read posts from other sources. I...

Should probably read posts from other sources. I dunno who else wrote about this Kateeva thing, but I think I read somewhere that they expect systems for TV production to be in place by 2016. That...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   09-16-2014, 02:00 AM
Replies: 125
Views: 5,567
Posted By rogo
If they stop selling DVDs, most media sales will...

If they stop selling DVDs, most media sales will simply go to zero. What remains is kids movies and some amount of substitution of BluRay for DVD among the indifferent. It accelerates Netflix's exit...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   09-15-2014, 11:02 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 5,567
Posted By rogo
Proponents need to look at these numbers for a...

Proponents need to look at these numbers for a second.

4 out of 5 discs sold are DVD. BluRay sales are roughly a $2 billion business, approximately the same as VOD/streamed rentals, already...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   09-15-2014, 02:42 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 2,833
Posted By rogo
Hmm, I know someone else who wrote about that...

Hmm, I know someone else who wrote about that deal.... I forget who...

I think maybe you're missing the point on the $38M. It's not about the dollar value. Kateeva has been working on the YIELDjet...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   09-15-2014, 02:37 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 5,567
Posted By rogo
Of course, if the TV is only on 6 hours a day, it...

Of course, if the TV is only on 6 hours a day, it will apparently last close to 14 years up to "half brightness" using your math... And maybe OLED isn't quite ready for kid-friendly households yet...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   09-15-2014, 12:09 AM
Replies: 125
Views: 5,567
Posted By rogo
The very people you need to go gaga over 4K...

The very people you need to go gaga over 4K BluRay -- the collectors, the movie buffs -- will likely already have the Sony player by the time there is BluRay.


I don't see why people buying a...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   09-14-2014, 08:54 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 5,567
Posted By rogo
I think you're sadly mistaken if you believe...

I think you're sadly mistaken if you believe there are enough people who are (a) bandwidth limited such that they can't stream (b) also have 4K TVs and are desperately seeking pristine-quality 4K...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   09-14-2014, 05:46 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 5,567
Posted By rogo
If not 2016, it seems pretty likely that 2017...

If not 2016, it seems pretty likely that 2017 will bring something in that price/size combo. And by 2018, either OLED has failed or what you want is a given.



I'd imagine by the same 2016,...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   09-14-2014, 05:42 PM
Replies: 59
Views: 2,429
Posted By rogo
OLED is emissive, not transmissive/light valve....

OLED is emissive, not transmissive/light valve. It's a completely different technology and is in nearly all ways superior (save, say, absolute brightness).

It has about as much to do with LCD as...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   09-14-2014, 05:36 PM
Replies: 10,929
Views: 1,065,521
Posted By rogo
So I checked out the site. The entirety of the...

So I checked out the site. The entirety of the claim is based on a screen grab they obtained earlier, which it's not clear they were ever supposed to see.

The screen grab certainly suggests LG was...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   09-14-2014, 11:22 AM
Replies: 59
Views: 2,429
Posted By rogo
To what? And based on what? No one has...

To what?

And based on what?

No one has come close to producing a quantum-dot display.

The only thing we've seen so far is films on top of LED backlights in LCDs.

And, honestly, those...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   09-14-2014, 11:19 AM
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Posted By rogo
I don't care for delayed shipping, but can...

I don't care for delayed shipping, but can someone define for me how they could "raise" the price on something they had absolutely, positively never announced any official pricing for before?
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Forum: Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP   09-13-2014, 03:15 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 2,173
Posted By rogo
In a year or two, you'll be able to buy a...

In a year or two, you'll be able to buy a 120-inch LCD for $50,000. It's hard for me to imagine how that wouldn't be better, even with some limits of LCD picture quality.
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   09-12-2014, 11:02 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 5,567
Posted By rogo
If he said that, he's wrong. HDMI 2.0 has plenty...

If he said that, he's wrong. HDMI 2.0 has plenty of bandwidth to handle 4K at 60fps and audio too.
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   09-12-2014, 10:59 PM
Replies: 10,929
Views: 1,065,521
Posted By rogo
So just to be clear, the problem isn't patterning...

So just to be clear, the problem isn't patterning the R/G/B for Samsung. It's moving a small mask (smaller than the size of the TV) across the TV and having that line up perfectly each time while...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   09-12-2014, 12:36 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 2,833
Posted By rogo
I believe more than ever they aren't. Details...

I believe more than ever they aren't. Details soon.
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   09-12-2014, 12:35 PM
Replies: 177
Views: 7,507
Posted By rogo
I literally get to push the 77-inch back to the...

I literally get to push the 77-inch back to the wall (about 18 inches) and redesign the family room space when it finally comes here (or some similar size). The ability to go that route would get...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   09-12-2014, 12:29 PM
Replies: 321
Views: 15,925
Posted By rogo
Street Ken. You remain a gentleman and...

Street Ken.



You remain a gentleman and a scholar! :)


Not this year or probably next... But down the road?
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   09-12-2014, 01:05 AM
Replies: 321
Views: 15,925
Posted By rogo
It feels like -- to me -- that swinging for the...

It feels like -- to me -- that swinging for the fences is going to look like $2500/$5000 on the 55 and 65.

Hitting the grand slam is going to be $2000/$4000 on those.

Of course, many of us...
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   09-12-2014, 01:00 AM
Replies: 177
Views: 7,507
Posted By rogo
I'm about spreading joy. If I try to talk...

I'm about spreading joy.

If I try to talk people out of something that I think will not happen / be unrealistically priced, it's so they can go buy something else and be happy. :)
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   09-12-2014, 12:54 AM
Replies: 136
Views: 10,224
Posted By rogo
Thanks for clarification/correction. That...

Thanks for clarification/correction.

That said, it doesn't dispute my point. If curved was a perceived detriment to sales, they would have introduced zero curved models, not every model but one.
Forum: OLED Technology and Flat Panels General   09-12-2014, 12:52 AM
Replies: 10,929
Views: 1,065,521
Posted By rogo
I get that you think that proves something...

I get that you think that proves something important. Not to beat a dead horse, but I do not agree.
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