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Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-28-2014, 02:57 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Mine are the MK Sound version - sorry for the...

Mine are the MK Sound version - sorry for the confusion. MK Sound S150s are THX Ultra 2.



Indeed - ARCOS is highly desirable as I understand these things.



I agree with you also FWIW. I...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-28-2014, 02:52 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Cunning devil :) Agreed.

Cunning devil :)



Agreed.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-28-2014, 02:38 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Sure - but is 5.2 with just FH an approved Auro...

Sure - but is 5.2 with just FH an approved Auro configuration and will it work well? In my case my FH speakers are nowhere near where Auro expects them to be (albeit they are within Atmos spec) so I...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-28-2014, 02:35 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
;)

;)
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-28-2014, 02:30 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Oh sure. I am all ears for that too. $200 for the...

Oh sure. I am all ears for that too. $200 for the upgrade to Auro is reasonable, and despite my belief that there will be a lack of content going forward, I'd have done the upgrade if it was possible...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-28-2014, 02:26 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I guess it is because of the very wide range of...

I guess it is because of the very wide range of different rooms that members have, making speaker position, quantity, type and make much more liable to wide variation. OTOH, the choice of AVR is much...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-28-2014, 02:22 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Deliberately placing the speakers far from the...

Deliberately placing the speakers far from the positions recommended by the system designers doesn't seem likely, to me, to produce a great result. While it is probably true that many in this thread...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-28-2014, 02:18 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I could but, AIUI, Auro requires 4 height...

I could but, AIUI, Auro requires 4 height speakers (please correct me if I am wrong) and there is no 5.2 version of Auro. If this is so, then the result will be fairly poor from using just 2 height...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-28-2014, 02:12 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Yes the consistency of opinion is undeniable. And...

Yes the consistency of opinion is undeniable. And it also validates the position that measurements do actually correlate to how we subjectively hear, something that is frequently denied or derided by...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-28-2014, 02:06 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Agreed. I happen to use M&K S150s across the...

Agreed. I happen to use M&K S150s across the front - THX Ultra 2 certified designs and, prior to EQ, the timbral difference between the L&R and the Centre speaker is very easy to hear on pink noise -...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-28-2014, 01:22 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Yep. It confirms, for me, that Auro will be a...

Yep. It confirms, for me, that Auro will be a non-starter here. I already have my forward Atmos speakers designated as FH even though they are ceiling-mounted, so I could probably just about get away...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-28-2014, 01:15 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
They’re just releasing them as they become...

They’re just releasing them as they become available, now that the mastering houses are getting their equipment installed and online. There'll be a lot more next year as more Atmos movies hit the...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-28-2014, 01:13 PM
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Posted By kbarnes701
To get Atmos you have to have an AVR that is...

To get Atmos you have to have an AVR that is Atmos-enabled. The HT-RC660 is one such unit. As it only has 7 channels internally you would be limited to a 5.1.4 Atmos configuration, that is, 2 on...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-28-2014, 11:55 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
In the extensive tests conducted by Floyd Toole...

In the extensive tests conducted by Floyd Toole and detailed in his book, it was shown that overwhelmingly listeners favored a frequency response that was smooth and gradually falling from bass to...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-28-2014, 11:37 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Well, when you put it like that... :)

Well, when you put it like that... :)
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-28-2014, 11:06 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
How can you work out the angles unless you know...

How can you work out the angles unless you know where the mixer sits? Also, it may just be an illustrative diagram that is common to all Atmos desks, although I agree that it is more probable that...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-28-2014, 10:53 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
From the manual: "Auro-3D does not support a...

From the manual: "Auro-3D does not support a Dolby Atoms (sic) configuration using Top Front, Top Middle, Top Rear, Rear Height, or any Dolby Atmos Enabled speakers. If you are using these speakers...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-28-2014, 09:58 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I respect your right to be pleased with what you...

I respect your right to be pleased with what you have. That really, at the end of the day, is all that matters. I think we have both said all we need to say on this topic now and perhaps it is time...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-28-2014, 09:29 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Yeah - you only have to look at soundbar sales to...

Yeah - you only have to look at soundbar sales to see their impact on the market, driven by the poor quality speakers in ultra-thin TVs of course.

But HT is a minority passtime. Most people are...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-28-2014, 09:19 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Ah so - thanks. As you know my current Denon is...

Ah so - thanks. As you know my current Denon is the first I have ever had, and it doesn't feature these graphs. I have always thought that they represented the 'after' situation like the pro graphs,...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-28-2014, 07:35 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Agreed again. As a long-term user of XT32 and...

Agreed again. As a long-term user of XT32 and Pro, and someone with modest skills with REW and parametric EQ, I have found that I can usually make small improvements to an XT32 calibration, but would...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-28-2014, 07:31 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
+1. Your remarks also remind me that 'timbre...

+1. Your remarks also remind me that 'timbre matching' is something that effective EQ significantly improves. As you say, even identical speakers sound different to each other simply as a result of...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-28-2014, 05:51 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
A momentus day. For once, we agree on something....

A momentus day. For once, we agree on something. You are completely correct. And a good post from Chris Kyriakakis to back it up too if I may say so.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-28-2014, 05:45 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
The graphs show what Audyssey is doing. They are...

The graphs show what Audyssey is doing. They are not measurements - they are predictions based on the filters Audyssey created during the measurement phase of the calibration.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   11-28-2014, 05:25 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Nobody is suggesting that you don't listen. It is...

Nobody is suggesting that you don't listen. It is just that these measurements will show you, objectively, what you are listening to. It is very easy to do them and Markus has said he will guide you...
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