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Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-22-2014, 09:22 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
If that is the case it is something entirely new...

If that is the case it is something entirely new to Audyssey. No matter where you set the initial sub level (as I say, I use 84dB) you can continue with the calibration simply by skipping that stage....
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-22-2014, 09:17 AM
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There's no 'should' about it. That is just the...

There's no 'should' about it. That is just the way I do it. If I set the levels at 75dB on the initial Audyssey level test, then my trim settings come out at too 'high' for me. This leaves me no...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-22-2014, 09:12 AM
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Yes, there are certainly many reasons why Auro...

Yes, there are certainly many reasons why Auro may not find great success in the home market, rigid speaker placement being one of them. Being behind in the race, having no clear prospect of movie...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-22-2014, 07:57 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I understood that it had been officially...

I understood that it had been officially confirmed at CEDIA, BICBW. No matter, I don't think there's any doubt it's coming. My guess for DTS would be a year away at best. Auro is more interesting as...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-22-2014, 07:01 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Good ideas. Yes, an S&M update would be useful....

Good ideas. Yes, an S&M update would be useful. It's all academic to me right now, as I sit here frustratedly with 4 overhead speakers installed, all wiring to their amps in place and everything...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-22-2014, 06:06 AM
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I hope the trailers make it onto movie BDs too -...

I hope the trailers make it onto movie BDs too - similar to the way DTS have done it in the past. I agree with you that a very busy mix makes it quite hard to hear exactly what is going on (STID...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-22-2014, 06:02 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Remember Dolby's advice that the modules should...

Remember Dolby's advice that the modules should remain within 3 feet of their associated speaker (presumably to aid integration around the 180Hz XO).
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-22-2014, 06:00 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
As I said in the other thread - great report...

As I said in the other thread - great report batpig and I am sure it will help others in similar situations.

Your experience shows, IMO, the importance of setup to getting a good result, and also...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-22-2014, 05:54 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Confirmed. But don't expect it any time soon,...

Confirmed. But don't expect it any time soon, given how far behind the curve DTS are running.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-22-2014, 05:49 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
That is the important thing. Forget that 75dB...

That is the important thing. Forget that 75dB thing - it's just a guide. The real objective is to set the sub volume (on the sub) so that the post-cal trim setting is about -6dB or so. This then...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-22-2014, 05:46 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
JD - I don't have my unit yet, but can you...

JD - I don't have my unit yet, but can you explain a little more about what Eco actually does? I instinctively turn off any Eco stuff because I usually feel that it has a negative impact on...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-22-2014, 03:39 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Fabulous, detailed report there batpig. It shows...

Fabulous, detailed report there batpig. It shows fairly conclusively the importance of getting the setup right. And I think you would get an even better result if your surrounds were lowered to ~ear...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-22-2014, 03:32 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I wasn't sure if it would or not, so the best...

I wasn't sure if it would or not, so the best thing seemed to be to suggesting turning it off. I know it will never be turned on here ;)
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-21-2014, 11:56 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
You are conflating what Dolby promised and what...

You are conflating what Dolby promised and what manufacturers have chosen to implement. Dolby have given the ability for speaker positions to be made available to the rendering engine, but so far,...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-21-2014, 11:53 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
So you're saying he is hearing-impaired? To hear...

So you're saying he is hearing-impaired? To hear something which, on the basis of scientific evidence is impossible to hear, is either delusional or shows a problem with his hearing. Neither is...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-21-2014, 10:36 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
What I find odd is that here in the UK at least,...

What I find odd is that here in the UK at least, the 7009 is substantially less expensive than the 5200 (£1399 vs £1699), yet, as you say, they seem to be functionally identical. In fact, I am...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-21-2014, 09:35 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
In an Audyssey calibrated system, turn the Master...

In an Audyssey calibrated system, turn the Master Volume to 0dB.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-21-2014, 07:02 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Do you want me to go through the WSR articles...

Do you want me to go through the WSR articles line by line to tell you what he says? It's all there in print for anyone to see.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-21-2014, 06:49 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Any in-ceiling speaker with wide dispersion, or...

Any in-ceiling speaker with wide dispersion, or an aimable tweeter. And of course it will have to have the power handling, frequency response etc that your needs demand, just like any other speaker.
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-21-2014, 06:47 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I guess about as long as it took 5.1 to become...

I guess about as long as it took 5.1 to become mundane and ordinary. Which, for me at least, is 'never'. I still delight in a well-executed 5.1 track just as much as I ever did, and probably just as...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-21-2014, 05:59 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Try reconfiguring to FH + TM and see how that...

Try reconfiguring to FH + TM and see how that sounds. In the Insatllation WP Dolby say that FH should ideally be on the front wall, but if they have to be on the ceiling should comply with the FH...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-21-2014, 05:14 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Change it back to 8 ohm and turn Eco mode off, if...

Change it back to 8 ohm and turn Eco mode off, if you have it on.



Unlikely.



I don't think that will work. Atmos needs some separation from the ear-level speakers and the overhead...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-21-2014, 05:07 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
I'm not quite clear where your speakers are...

I'm not quite clear where your speakers are placed. You are using TF and TR so your speakers are withing the following angles from MLP?

TF = 30-55° and TR = 125-150°. Your overhead speakers...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-21-2014, 05:01 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
Yes, I don't really care where the unit is built...

Yes, I don't really care where the unit is built so long as it is built well. Originally I saw the X4100 as a low cost entry to Atmos which I wanted because of the uncertainty of other formats...
Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors   09-21-2014, 04:49 AM
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Posted By kbarnes701
All of the old Dolby upmixers (Prologic suite -...

All of the old Dolby upmixers (Prologic suite - PLII etc) have now been wrapped into the new Dolby Surround Upmixer (DSU). On an Atmos-enabled AVR, you will no longer see the old upmixers - just the...
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